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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by jimbob » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:25 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
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I'm pretty sure that the PM can't refuse to hold a no confidence in the PM's government vote without causing a constitutional crisis.
5p says he can.
What I don’t understand is why he stopped it? They wouldn’t win it so surely he’s just handed them a PR victory?

ETA PR meaning public relations not proportional representation
Poisoning the well for his successor?
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Little waster » Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:56 pm

Thank god we Got Brexit Done, Took Back Control and Restored Parliamentary Sovereignty.

I’ve got another three word slogan for them but it’s mostly just the same rude word repeated several times.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by dyqik » Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:58 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:23 pm
jdc wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:03 pm
dyqik wrote:
Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:20 pm
I'm pretty sure that the PM can't refuse to hold a no confidence in the PM's government vote without causing a constitutional crisis.
5p says he can.
What I don’t understand is why he stopped it? They wouldn’t win it so surely he’s just handed them a PR victory?

ETA PR meaning public relations not proportional representation
And the day before PM questions...

First question will be "did the prime minister block a no confidence debate in the house because he believes that he has lost the confidence of the house?"

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by monkey » Wed Jul 13, 2022 12:29 am

I suspect the Opposition may have fudge the words, just so it would cause a fuss.

At the moment, it's just about the only thing they can do.

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:13 am

Didn't see this coming to be fair
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Little waster » Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:47 am

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Didn't see this coming to be fair
Well TBF someone had to pay for his treehouse.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by jimbob » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:14 pm

Johnson rejecting Labour's motion of no confidence and now tabling one of his own that doesn't mention the Prime Minister is a twist that I hadn't seen.

I'm not sure it's a good look though.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by TopBadger » Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:53 pm

jimbob wrote:
Wed Jul 13, 2022 1:14 pm
Johnson rejecting Labour's motion of no confidence and now tabling one of his own that doesn't mention the Prime Minister is a twist that I hadn't seen.

I'm not sure it's a good look though.
It's about all they could do to not fall foul of allowing a vote on this matter whilst also clearing up the wording to be less about Johnson and therefore not providing ammunition to Labour for those MP's who will support Johnson's government next week. Of course they'll say they're supporting a conservative government with an 80 seat majority in the process of choosing a new leader. They'll be right in that too.

Hence why I didn't understand why Labour tried to pull this trick now - had they had pulled it before Johnson's government collapsed those MP's would have egg on their faces, but they didn't.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Jul 13, 2022 8:14 pm

jdc wrote:
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*Thomas Craig Corbett-Dillon founded the Social Media Agency Westminster Digital, under the name "Craig Dillon". In 2014 a Youtuber "Craig Thomas Dillon" was accused of six cases of rape and and media outlets reporting the case were threatened with legal action by Craig Dillon's lawyer a "Thomas Corbett" reportedly a fake identity with no record of any such lawyer existing. "Thomas Corbett" had previous form posing as You Tube Management to scam backstage passes and the like from various other social media types. That could all be a weird coincidence of similar names though and I don't know if anything ever came of those accusations, so I could be doing him a terrible dis-service but if not, its not a good look.
Not a weird coincidence of similar names - the Daily Dot article on the 2014 allegations links to a denial from the twitter account of the youtuber. The tweet's been deleted but you can see it was posted by the blue tick account @craigtdillon (currently posting as Thomas Corbett-Dillon).

There's a 2015 interview in the Independent that refers to all charges being dropped though. (According to the google summary - I haven't read it cos it's the Independent.)

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Little waster » Wed Jul 13, 2022 9:25 pm

It’s telling that I’ve just randomly caught the first 5 minutes of Mock the Week, which was a series of jokes on the general topic of Johnson’s corruption, incompetence and record unpopularity and I genuinely couldn’t put a date on it before Dara summarised it as being Spoiler:


:shock:

Still we must repeat the mantra “nobody could have ever predicted how manifestly unfit Johnson was to be PM”
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by JQH » Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:36 am

The fact that most of them were wearing poppies was a bit of a give away that it wasn't current.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by tom p » Fri Jul 15, 2022 10:36 am

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The fact that most of them were wearing poppies was a bit of a give away that it wasn't current.
Not necessarily. Are you not wearing yours already? Traitor scum!

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Little waster » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:51 pm

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The fact that most of them were wearing poppies was a bit of a give away that it wasn't current.
I think you gravely overestimate my:-

a) eyesight
b) degree of attention to what the other monkeys are wearing at any given moment
c) overall awareness of what is going in general

:oops:


On that note I was genuinely about 27 before I noticed that there was something not quite right with Jeremy Beadle's hand :shock:
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by tom p » Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:56 pm

Little waster wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:51 pm
JQH wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:36 am
The fact that most of them were wearing poppies was a bit of a give away that it wasn't current.
I think you gravely overestimate my:-

a) eyesight
b) degree of attention to what the other monkeys are wearing at any given moment
c) overall awareness of what is going in general

:oops:


On that note I was genuinely about 27 before I noticed that there was something not quite right with Jeremy Beadle's hand :shock:
It was only when I shook it that I realised.

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by dyqik » Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:48 pm

Little waster wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 12:51 pm
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Fri Jul 15, 2022 8:36 am
The fact that most of them were wearing poppies was a bit of a give away that it wasn't current.
I think you fail to realize that my:-

a) eyesight
b) degree of attention to what the other monkeys are wearing at any given moment
c) overall awareness of what is going in general

cannot be overestimated.

:oops:

On that note I was genuinely about 27 before I noticed that there was something not quite right with Jeremy Beadle's hand :shock:
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by lpm » Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:10 pm

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Lame ducks are, you know, notorious for being lame.

Claiming Johnson is going to be a powerful duck is therefore an extraordinary claim. It needs extraordinary evidence.
It's pretty funny that the Twitter Excitables didn't even take a breath between "OMG Johnson will have superpowers and use them for evil" and "It's a disgrace, he's on holiday again".
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Trinucleus » Mon Aug 15, 2022 6:32 pm

lpm wrote:
Mon Aug 15, 2022 4:10 pm
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Lame ducks are, you know, notorious for being lame.

Claiming Johnson is going to be a powerful duck is therefore an extraordinary claim. It needs extraordinary evidence.
It's pretty funny that the Twitter Excitables didn't even take a breath between "OMG Johnson will have superpowers and use them for evil" and "It's a disgrace, he's on holiday again".
The most noteworthy thing about this holiday is that he paid for it himself. Staying somewhere where his Dad has a place....

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by lpm » Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:48 am

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I'm getting increasingly annoyed at TV "journalists", plus the usual twitter morons, talking about 3 months or October.

Last time it took exactly 2 months. That would be 7 September. The obvious date to crown the new PM and start her honeymoon period is when House returns from recess, 5 September. There's simply no chance it'll be significantly later than that.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by lpm » Tue Sep 06, 2022 11:48 am

lpm wrote:
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But this thread looks accurate

https://twitter.com/garius/status/15449 ... jJN0yK8LzA

Given his appointments so far.
So a few serious thoughts before I run to a meeting. Based on the fact that we live in the literal worst timeline...

...how does Boris Johnson make this EVEN WORSE?

Answer: fill the vacant cabinet roles. /1

lot of discussion then

https://twitter.com/garius/status/15449 ... jJN0yK8LzA
Why is this EVEN WORSE than, say Raab ending up in charge?

Well because we'd be looking at 3 months of Johnson pushing his redemption agenda largely unchecked. AND ALSO a cabinet full of even more overpromoted wannabes WHO ARE NOW FIGHTING FOR THE LEADERSHIP
I can't believe the stupidity of that thread. And can't be arsed to go through the errors. Isn't this the train guy, talks about steam engines and stuff?
Oh look, that Garius f.cking idiot was hilariously wrong.
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