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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:12 pm

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First criminal trial starts in April 15th. Trump currently giving a conspiracy a go go press conference in which he is complaining about a two tier system. It is of course a two tier system because any other person would be in prison by now.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html
ETA: lol. MSNBC just cut away from him because they in effect said he was spouting nothing but b.llsh.t

ETA Trump just claimed he had much more money than the bond but wanted to use it for his campaign. He also claimed that Mar a Lago is worth up to 1.8 billion dollars not 18 million.
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by monkey » Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:20 pm

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by dyqik » Mon Mar 25, 2024 6:54 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:12 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:10 pm
First criminal trial starts in April 15th. Trump currently giving a conspiracy a go go press conference in which he is complaining about a two tier system. It is of course a two tier system because any other person would be in prison by now.

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/ ... index.html
ETA: lol. MSNBC just cut away from him because they in effect said he was spouting nothing but b.llsh.t

ETA Trump just claimed he had much more money than the bond but wanted to use it for his campaign. He also claimed that Mar a Lago is worth up to 1.8 billion dollars not 18 million.
Hmm, so he's saying he lied to the appeals court? I'm sure that will help his appeal.

Also, a value of $1.80 fits within "up to 1.8 billion dollars".

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Mar 26, 2024 10:39 am

Some excellent court reporting from yesterday including multiple instances of Justice Merchan pointing out the Trump lawyers are a..eholes.

https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/a- ... n-april-15
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by TopBadger » Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:56 pm

It's staggering though isn't it... Courts seem to be granting him every leeway possible. I don't know why, given he's still decrying his treatment as unfair (when in reality it's the opposite).
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:34 pm

TopBadger wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:56 pm
It's staggering though isn't it... Courts seem to be granting him every leeway possible. I don't know why, given he's still decrying his treatment as unfair (when in reality it's the opposite).
One suggestion by George Conway is that they’ve let him do the lower bond amount because they can at least guarantee having some of the money in the event he loses without having to track down assets all over the place.

I’ve seen it suggested by others that the reduced amount may be a sign that the appeals court are considering reducing the penalties but otherwise rejecting the appeal
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by dyqik » Tue Mar 26, 2024 4:08 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 1:34 pm
TopBadger wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 12:56 pm
It's staggering though isn't it... Courts seem to be granting him every leeway possible. I don't know why, given he's still decrying his treatment as unfair (when in reality it's the opposite).
One suggestion by George Conway is that they’ve let him do the lower bond amount because they can at least guarantee having some of the money in the event he loses without having to track down assets all over the place.

I’ve seen it suggested by others that the reduced amount may be a sign that the appeals court are considering reducing the penalties but otherwise rejecting the appeal
The penalties are a direct calculation of the market value cost of the loans that he fraudulently obtained - it's a judgement of fact, which means that it'll be really hard to change them on appeal.

I suspect that the reason for reducing the bond to an amount a bit less than the bond he obtained in the Carroll case is a straight access to due process reasoning.

The potential grounds for appeal are basically "throw out this commonly used law", so it's pretty unlikely to go anywhere.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Mar 26, 2024 6:59 pm

Gag order for Trump https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/pre ... dicial.pdf
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:32 pm

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Grumble » Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:32 pm

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Kari Lake appears f.cked


https://x.com/garrett_archer/status/177 ... 11178?s=61
I don’t understand what that means. Is she effectively pleading no contest?
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by dyqik » Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:30 pm

Grumble wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:32 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:32 pm
Kari Lake appears f.cked


https://x.com/garrett_archer/status/177 ... 11178?s=61
I don’t understand what that means. Is she effectively pleading no contest?
Yes.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by IvanV » Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:54 pm

dyqik wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:30 pm
Grumble wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:32 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue Mar 26, 2024 11:32 pm
Kari Lake appears f.cked


https://x.com/garrett_archer/status/177 ... 11178?s=61
I don’t understand what that means. Is she effectively pleading no contest?
Yes.
A clearer article (AZ Mirror)

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:10 pm

IvanV wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:54 pm
dyqik wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 1:30 pm
Grumble wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 12:32 pm


I don’t understand what that means. Is she effectively pleading no contest?
Yes.
A clearer article (AZ Mirror)
I wonder if he’s right that she won’t be able to avoid discovery
Ryan thinks that the discovery process, in which both sides would have to provide information pertinent to the case to the other side, including private communications like text messages between Lake and others, is exactly why she and her lawyers chose to default.

“They’re trying to avoid their duty of disclosure to Richer,” he said, adding that he believes they were doing it “unartfully.”

Ryan predicted that Lake and her lawyers will be sanctioned for their actions, and that Lake will likely be ordered to participate in the discovery and disclosure process even with a default judgment.
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by dyqik » Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:56 pm

You'll be shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn that Trump's big pay day from selling Trump media has been bankrolled by money laundering Russians.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 2022-loans

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:41 pm

dyqik wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:56 pm
You'll be shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn that Trump's big pay day from selling Trump media has been bankrolled by money laundering Russians.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 2022-loans
I’m sure you’ll be even more shocked to find the backer of his recent bond was sued by the DOJ for illegally seizing service members’ cars

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trumps-bo ... nistration
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by headshot » Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:59 pm

Why “sued by the DOJ” and not “arrested” for something he did illegally.

America is weird.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Gfamily » Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:50 pm

The bond presented has been 'returned for correction' as it was found to be missing certain elements

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-bond-2667675522/

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by dyqik » Wed Apr 03, 2024 11:16 pm

headshot wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 7:59 pm
Why “sued by the DOJ” and not “arrested” for something he did illegally.

America is weird.
Likely because it's easily to win a civil claim than a criminal one.

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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Thu Apr 04, 2024 9:26 am

Gfamily wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 9:50 pm
The bond presented has been 'returned for correction' as it was found to be missing certain elements

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-bond-2667675522/

He truly has the best people he can afford.
Interesting update. The missing financed statement was for the insurance company but the court monitor probably has the details https://www.rawstory.com/trump-lisa-rubin-evidence/
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Thu Apr 04, 2024 10:02 am

dyqik wrote:
Wed Apr 03, 2024 1:56 pm
You'll be shocked, shocked I tell you, to learn that Trump's big pay day from selling Trump media has been bankrolled by money laundering Russians.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... 2022-loans
Two friends of Postolnikov plead guilty to insider trading on Trump Media/Truth Social purchase

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-djt- ... hvartsman/
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:58 pm

In shock news Judge Cannon makes a decision which isn’t f.cking stupid

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .431.0.pdf
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Thu Apr 04, 2024 7:30 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Thu Apr 04, 2024 6:58 pm
In shock news Judge Cannon makes a decision which isn’t f.cking stupid

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap ... .431.0.pdf
Good explanatory thread here https://x.com/joycewhitevance/status/17 ... 03722?s=61
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Fri Apr 05, 2024 3:44 pm

Trump Media share price opened at almost 60 dollars on Monday but is now $41.79


Also he might need a good securities lawyer because of his posts https://x.com/meiselasb/status/1776264805432819715?s=61
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Fri Apr 05, 2024 5:51 pm

Judge Merchan denies Trump’s desire to subpoena NBC for documents concerning the upcoming Stormy Daniels documentary. No rifling through Stormy’s drawers Donald!

https://nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/p ... 4-5-24.pdf
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Re: Indecision 2024

Post by Stranger Mouse » Fri Apr 05, 2024 6:03 pm

Apparently Letitia James is really querying the bond that Trump got from the insurance company run by the second hand car dealer sup prime guy as it doesn’t look like they don’t have the money any more than Donald does

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 23810.html
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