Johann Hari - up to his old tricks again

[Tristan]

What’s that? Johann Hari making sh.t up in his books again? Well there’s a surprise!

https://x.com/jayrayner1/status/1789705 ... iksLglQFYQ

Why do publishers go anywhere near him?

[Woodchopper]

Why do publishers go anywhere near him?

Classic thread provides an explanation

https://x.com/garwboy/status/1352648404 ... 1zY-PW4R9w

[shpalman]

Why do otherwise respected youtubers go anywhere near him? https://youtu.be/gU2YzX7xv4w

[Tristan]

Omfg it keeps getting worse (or better if you’re in it for the drama).

So, he apologises to Jay Rayner, saying he’d mixed him up with someone else who’d written about taking Ozempic: https://x.com/johannhari101/status/1790 ... iksLglQFYQ

Except THAT person (whose name he misspelled twice) has now come out to say he also misrepresented her and that she’s never taken Ozempic either! https://x.com/leila_latif/status/179006 ... iksLglQFYQ

[bob sterman]

Yes - Hari is full of sh*t.

But in the case of Latif's article about taking a medication which reduces her desire for food - if you skim read it you could easily come away with the mistaken impression that the medication is semaglutide.

Yes, England’s new weight-loss drug kills your appetite – but as I know, that comes at a cost
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... e-diabetes

[Tristan]

If all he’s doing is skim reading stuff before quoting it in his books then that explains a lot.

[shpalman]

Yes - Hari is full of sh*t.

But in the case of Latif's article about taking a medication which reduces her desire for food - if you skim read it you could easily come away with the mistaken impression that the medication is semaglutide.

Yes, England’s new weight-loss drug kills your appetite – but as I know, that comes at a cost
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... e-diabetes

I seem to remember even the Guardian were confused about that when they published it.

Somehow there's an article which alludes to semaglutide for diabetes in which [a]n earlier subheading said that Leila Latif took semaglutide for diabetes, but she is not using that medication and does not have diabetes so just turns out to be about someone whose whole identity revolved around food who now has no appetite due to medication for an unspecified health condition.

They really were scrabbling around for a negative narrative around this stuff. "Let's find people who eat who've never taken semaglutide and ask them to imagine it might not be great to be on it".

[shpalman]

I'll link this in (from 2011) for backstory https://www.theguardian.com/media/2011/ ... well-prize

Johann Hari has apologised for plagiarising the work of others to improve his interviews and will take unpaid leave of absence from the paper until 2012.

Hari also apologised for editing the Wikipedia entries of people he had clashed with, using the pseudonym David Rose, "in ways that were juvenile or malicious", saying he was "mortified to have done this". He admitted calling "one of them antisemitic and homophobic, and the other a drunk".

Hari is also handing back the George Orwell prize he won as "an act of contrition for the errors I made elsewhere, in my interviews" and will undertake "a programme of journalism training" during his leave of absence.

It is understood that provided no more damaging revelations emerge about the journalist during his unpaid leave, the Independent editor, Chris Blackhurst, will allow him to return to the paper.

[narrator]... but he did not return to the paper[/narrator]

[Stranger Mouse]

Yes - Hari is full of sh*t.

But in the case of Latif's article about taking a medication which reduces her desire for food - if you skim read it you could easily come away with the mistaken impression that the medication is semaglutide.

Yes, England’s new weight-loss drug kills your appetite – but as I know, that comes at a cost
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... e-diabetes

I seem to remember even the Guardian were confused about that when they published it.

Somehow there's an article which alludes to semaglutide for diabetes in which [a]n earlier subheading said that Leila Latif took semaglutide for diabetes, but she is not using that medication and does not have diabetes so just turns out to be about someone whose whole identity revolved around food who now has no appetite due to medication for an unspecified health condition.

They really were scrabbling around for a negative narrative around this stuff. "Let's find people who eat who've never taken semaglutide and ask them to imagine it might not be great to be on it".

If anyone is interested this episode of Science Vs is very good on these types of pills https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-v ... we-thought

[shpalman]

Yes - Hari is full of sh*t.

But in the case of Latif's article about taking a medication which reduces her desire for food - if you skim read it you could easily come away with the mistaken impression that the medication is semaglutide.

Yes, England’s new weight-loss drug kills your appetite – but as I know, that comes at a cost
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... e-diabetes

I seem to remember even the Guardian were confused about that when they published it.

Somehow there's an article which alludes to semaglutide for diabetes in which [a]n earlier subheading said that Leila Latif took semaglutide for diabetes, but she is not using that medication and does not have diabetes so just turns out to be about someone whose whole identity revolved around food who now has no appetite due to medication for an unspecified health condition.

They really were scrabbling around for a negative narrative around this stuff. "Let's find people who eat who've never taken semaglutide and ask them to imagine it might not be great to be on it".

If anyone is interested this episode of Science Vs is very good on these types of pills https://gimletmedia.com/shows/science-v ... we-thought

They too seem desperate to go in and set off some scary backlash before having to admit it's basically fine, the side effects are either rare or actually worse in the control group, or it might just not work out for everyone.