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Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 11:06 am
by username
Trump and Clinton both had low vote numbers (Trump received fewer votes that Romney iirc). Neither of them were very much liked, so although the voter turnout was about the same proportion as 2012 (61%ish), significantly more votes went to other candidates than previously.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:13 pm
by username
David Holmes. It sounds as though Willam Taylor downplayed things a little when he said his staffer had 'overheard' the conversation. It sounds more like the conversation was actively shared at the table.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Sat Nov 16, 2019 4:41 pm
by FlammableFlower
username wrote: ↑Sat Nov 16, 2019 2:13 pm
David Holmes. It sounds as though Willam Taylor downplayed things a little when he said his staffer had 'overheard' the conversation. It sounds more like the conversation was actively shared at the table.
And Sondland's testimony is being torn to shreds. I wonder if he'll make another 'clarification'?
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:04 am
by shpalman
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... al-checkup
Donald Trump spent more than two hours at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Saturday for what the White House said were medical tests as part of his annual physical.
The appointment wasn’t on Trump’s weekend public schedule.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:58 am
by Martin_B
shpalman wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:04 am
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... al-checkup
Donald Trump spent more than two hours at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Saturday for what the White House said were medical tests as part of his annual physical.
The appointment wasn’t on Trump’s weekend public schedule.
Dead cat?
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 3:26 pm
by Dermot O'Logical
shpalman wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:04 am
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... al-checkup
Donald Trump spent more than two hours at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Saturday for what the White House said were medical tests as part of his annual physical.
The appointment wasn’t on Trump’s weekend public schedule.
They had to double-check and then triple-check all his test results as they've never seen such great results for a man of his age. Really the best. Absolutely zero alarming symptoms of rapid decline.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:56 pm
by jimbob
Martin_B wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:58 am
shpalman wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 9:04 am
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... al-checkup
Donald Trump spent more than two hours at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center on Saturday for what the White House said were medical tests as part of his annual physical.
The appointment wasn’t on Trump’s weekend public schedule.
Dead cat?
Is
that what's on his head?
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Sun Nov 17, 2019 8:30 pm
by Gfamily
jimbob wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 7:56 pm
Martin_B wrote: ↑Sun Nov 17, 2019 10:58 am
Dead cat?
Is
that what's on his head?
makes a change from grabbing ...
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:20 pm
by Vertigowooyay
Trump says he will 'strongly consider' testifying.
I mean, he won't, but just imagine how damning that could be...
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:35 pm
by FlammableFlower
Vertigowooyay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:20 pm
Trump says he will 'strongly consider' testifying.
I mean, he won't, but just imagine how damning that could be...
You know he won't, we all know he won't. It's just his usual bluster and bravado.
...although we all wish he would - if his previous appearances in cases are anything to go on, he'd get himself convicted before he managed to get to the end of his long convoluted answer to the first question...
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:02 pm
by dyqik
FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:35 pm
Vertigowooyay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:20 pm
Trump says he will 'strongly consider' testifying.
I mean, he won't, but just imagine how damning that could be...
You know he won't, we all know he won't. It's just his usual bluster and bravado.
He said he'd consider releasing his tax returns. He's now suing in multiple cases to prevent them being released even to grand juries.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:12 pm
by Vertigowooyay
dyqik wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 5:02 pm
FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:35 pm
Vertigowooyay wrote: ↑Mon Nov 18, 2019 4:20 pm
Trump says he will 'strongly consider' testifying.
I mean, he won't, but just imagine how damning that could be...
You know he won't, we all know he won't. It's just his usual bluster and bravado.
He said he'd consider releasing his tax returns. He's now suing in multiple cases to prevent them being released even to grand juries.
You know, somewhere there's a mirror universe where he does all these things *and* realises he has a sense of shame.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 12:09 am
by username
Or we're just in that time-moment when nothing never occurs.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 2:34 pm
by dyqik
Nunes opening statement telling Sondland that he's there to be smeared, just after he dropped the President in it is going to age well...
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:02 pm
by Opti
This is all quite riveting ... for a certain value of riveting.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:03 pm
by lpm
I feel sorry for long-time criminal Trump... for a certain value of sorry.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:11 pm
by murmur
Snag is Sondland still isn't coming up with a definitive "Yeah, The Donald told me: here's the letter/tweet/recording of the phone call". It's still "everyone knew what he wanted".
How long before Trump hangs Guiliani out to dry?
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 6:24 pm
by Vertigowooyay
Sondland - a man with clearly no more f.cks to give.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:49 pm
by dyqik
Not a 'shop.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 7:52 pm
by dyqik
I want my MTV.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:59 pm
by Vertigowooyay
"I do not want my quid pro quo,
I do not want it, oh no, no.
I cannot now sink any lower
Thanks to that pesky whistleblower"
Seriously, the Repubs are taking this a conclusive evidence of innocence even though a) it's not a transcript. Obviously. and b) this was said (if it was said) after the whisleblowers report came out.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:50 pm
by GeenDienst
Seriously, the Repubs are taking this a conclusive evidence of innocence...
So there's still no sign at all of a shift in the GOP mood towards offloading him. Without that, none of this is any more than a sideshow, and his voter base doesn't give a f.ck.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:24 pm
by lpm
There are loads of signs of a shift by Republicans.
I think several here are under-estimating how bad the hearings are for Trump, and how ill he is.
Republicans know he won't be on the 2020 ballot but need to position themselves OK with the MAGA-morons. At some point there'll be a sudden switch over.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:37 pm
by dyqik
Vertigowooyay wrote: ↑Thu Nov 21, 2019 1:59 pm
"I do not want my quid pro quo,
I do not want it, oh no, no.
I cannot now sink any lower
Thanks to that pesky whistleblower"
Seriously, the Repubs are taking this a conclusive evidence of innocence even though a) it's not a transcript. Obviously. and b) this was said (if it was said) after the whisleblowers report came out.
And well after the Repubs knew that there was a whistleblower, as the whistleblower's report was improperly sent to the DoJ and White House before it was sent to Congress.
Re: Trump Impeachment
Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 3:42 pm
by dyqik
Hill is testifying now, telling the Republicans on the Committee that they are personally spreading false stories designed by Russia to weaken the United States.