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Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Thu Nov 30, 2023 4:24 pm
by jimbob
tenchboy wrote: ↑Thu Nov 30, 2023 3:41 pm
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which is like now. yeah i know it's late but busy busy
Hard to disagree with either of your previous two posts.
Of course some of Hancock's WhatsApp messages of the time give a different picture.
"I was pushing hard for interventions"
WhatsApp from him at the time saying "we're better prepared than other countries"
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2023 8:14 am
by tenchboy
A more nuanced view
From the Gaurdian
Keith eyed up Hancock. Let’s start with Pandemic Diaries. The elephant in the room. Best to get them out of the way. How could he put this delicately? They weren’t actually diaries, were they? They weren’t written contemporaneously. They were just scraps of messages, things that Door Matt would have liked to be true. Would it not be best to file them under fiction?
Absolutely not, insisted Hancock. Because they were imaginary, they were a better depiction of the truth than reality. A higher truth.
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:22 am
by Stranger Mouse
Watching Boris Johnson give evidence. I’m someone who often thinks that the ability to divine honesty from body language is often overstated but in this particular case I believe Boris Johnson was sh.tting himself when asked about missing WhatsApps
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:56 am
by Stranger Mouse
Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 10:22 am
Watching Boris Johnson give evidence. I’m someone who often thinks that the ability to divine honesty from body language is often overstated but in this particular case I believe Boris Johnson was sh.tting himself when asked about missing WhatsApps
And it gets worse as a bit later on he tries to imply he doesn’t know what a factory reset is and then there is this totally convincing explanation
https://x.com/adamjschwarz/status/17323 ... 87045?s=61
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:36 pm
by jimbob
He then discovered that even if he deleted messages, others 8n the conversation might release them to the inquiry.
And claiming ignorance of Cummings's view of Hancock.
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:52 pm
by Grumble
jimbob wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:36 pm
He then discovered that even if he deleted messages, others 8n the conversation might release them to the inquiry.
And claiming ignorance of Cummings's view of Hancock.
There is the option to delete for all.
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:23 pm
by jimbob
Grumble wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:52 pm
jimbob wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 3:36 pm
He then discovered that even if he deleted messages, others 8n the conversation might release them to the inquiry.
And claiming ignorance of Cummings's view of Hancock.
There is the option to delete for all.
Ah well, too late for Johnson. Maybe some of his ineptitude at technology is genuine.
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 7:18 pm
by geejaytee
His (actual) personal mobile phone number
was at the bottom of a press release freely available on the web for ages (>15 years), so anything is possible.
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 12:23 pm
by TopBadger
Watching the bumbling buffoon just makes we wince at how he made it to be PM... f.cking clown.
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 1:14 pm
by tenchboy
Handy technical clarification of the disappearing messages thing from the Beeb
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Thu Dec 21, 2023 2:39 pm
by TopBadger
I.e. it's all bollocks and a coverup. I'm surprised they've not been recovered yet and sincerely hope they are.
Re: Covid Inquiry
Posted: Tue Dec 26, 2023 6:33 pm
by Fishnut
Former GCHQ head
says the obvious.
Honestly, I'm surprised that senior government officials don't get given secure phones that have restricted ability to install apps on. The excuses from Sunak et al about changing their phones leading to lost messages makes it sound like they're all using personal phones which must be a f.cking security nightmare.