Re: International travel
Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:49 am
Any lawyers here? https://twitter.com/sTeamTraen/status/1 ... 50282?s=20
The answer seems to be quarantine:sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:49 amAny lawyers here? https://twitter.com/sTeamTraen/status/1 ... 50282?s=20
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/how-to-quarantine-when-you-arrive-in-england wrote: Children who are UK residents
On arrival in England, children aged 5 to 17 who are ordinarily resident in the UK:
must take a COVID-19 travel test on or before day 2
do not have to quarantine
If they’ve been in France in the 10 days before arriving in England, they must follow the rules for children who are not UK residents.
Children who are not UK residents
On arrival in England, children aged 5 to 17 who are not ordinarily resident in the UK:
must take a COVID-19 test on or before day 2 and on or after day 8
must quarantine at home or in the place they’re staying for 10 full days
Those are the old rules. They should have been replaced with new text when the EU certificates were allowed, but instead there is now a supplementary panel for EU/US certificates.TimW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:52 amThe answer seems to be quarantine:sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:49 amAny lawyers here? https://twitter.com/sTeamTraen/status/1 ... 50282?s=20
Depends, I mean, you might have popped over to Réunion for half a day while you were in France.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:14 amThose are the old rules. They should have been replaced with new text when the EU certificates were allowed, but instead there is now a supplementary panel for EU/US certificates.TimW wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 10:52 amThe answer seems to be quarantine:sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:49 amAny lawyers here? https://twitter.com/sTeamTraen/status/1 ... 50282?s=20
However, on reflection, the intent is clear: Children only get out of quarantine if their parent's could have got out of quarantine by being vaccinated. Since that isn't the case for parents coming from France, the children have to quarantine too. Hopefully "amber plus" will be dropped soon.
Reckoned to be the longest scheduled 'internal' flight in the world.shpalman wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 9:22 amDepends, I mean, you might have popped over to Réunion for half a day while you were in France.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 8:14 amThose are the old rules. They should have been replaced with new text when the EU certificates were allowed, but instead there is now a supplementary panel for EU/US certificates.
However, on reflection, the intent is clear: Children only get out of quarantine if their parent's could have got out of quarantine by being vaccinated. Since that isn't the case for parents coming from France, the children have to quarantine too. Hopefully "amber plus" will be dropped soon.
This evening, we're at an outdoor music event, where the 'pass sanitaire' was 'obligatoire', but this time our imported NHS QR codes were accepted.Gfamily wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 8:16 pmAlthough our NHS vaccination certificates were accepted for upload by the French TousAntiCovid app, they weren't accepted by the French Verif app when we tried to get into a Museum.
However, because it was quiet they were happy for us to enter when we showed them the NHS certificates on our NHS app.
sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 4:19 pmIf you test positive for Covid here in Mallorca, they put you in a quarantine hotel. This is in a hotel building, but basically run like a hospital (e.g., deliveries of McDonald's are considered contraband). This guest is unimpressed.
I am in favour of strict restrictions, but I can't see how food from macca's is any kind of health threat."The guests/patients are allowed to order meals outside, (as well as other basic supplies) but not processed food, as per the doctor's prescription.
What about masks?Woodchopper wrote: ↑Sun Aug 08, 2021 7:45 pmI went on a camping trip to Sweden earlier this week.
No checks at all going into Sweden.
Driving into Norway there were checks on everyone’s vaccine certificates and ID papers, and everyone got a rapid test (result took half an hour).
But when they do wear masks, in the supermarket for example, they tend to be FFP2. I think this kind of mask isn't mandatory but was at one point, and people are either still in the habit or just bought loads at the time so are still using them.
Either simplify the system - two WHO approved vaxes plus negative test- no matter which country, or close the borders like Oz, NZ, and China until the situation stabilizes (one year, ten years?). This side show is comic and helps nobody.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 7:28 pmThings are getting complicated for people with non-standard lives.
The UK's quarantine exemption for vaccinated people does not apply if:
- You have had two doses of different vaccines (even 1 Pfizer and 1 Moderna)
- Your country only gives one dose (except Janssen) to people who have had Covid
We have people locally in both of those situations. Explanatory notes were added to the UK government's "how to quarantine" website at several points in the past week.
My guess is that in practice nobody's going to get denied the "amber-to-green" upgrade if they try, as all the checking is done at the departure airport and most Spanish (at least) gate staff probably CBA about that level of complexity from the UK, when they already have 30 other countries' idiosyncrasies to deal with. But I helped someone yesterday whose 75yo Mum has to travel and doesn't want to quarantine, and is in the "one dose plus Covid" situation. She isn't going to take the risk of being denied boarding. This all feels so unnecessary.
This is an example of what in French is called "Yaka Faucon". Do you have any plan for how it might be achieved?Herainestold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:44 pmEither simplify the system - two WHO approved vaxes plus negative test- no matter which country, or close the borders like Oz, NZ, and China until the situation stabilizes (one year, ten years?). This side show is comic and helps nobody.
When I am in charge I will have an immaculate plan.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Fri Aug 20, 2021 10:34 pmThis is an example of what in French is called "Yaka Faucon". Do you have any plan for how it might be achieved?Herainestold wrote: ↑Thu Aug 19, 2021 8:44 pmEither simplify the system - two WHO approved vaxes plus negative test- no matter which country, or close the borders like Oz, NZ, and China until the situation stabilizes (one year, ten years?). This side show is comic and helps nobody.
Meanwhile the US says Switzerland - Level 4: Do Not Travel you f.cking idiots.*shpalman wrote: ↑Thu Aug 26, 2021 4:47 pmSeven destinations to be added to England’s Covid travel green list
Including Switzerland you f.cking idiots.
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