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Re: Who's next?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:08 pm
by shpalman
Javid is out. So we're left with
Kemi Badenoch
Suella Braverman
Jeremy Hunt
Penny Mordaunt
Rishi Sunak
Liz Truss
Tom Tugendhat
Nadhim Zahawi
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 6:36 pm
by philbo
So Steve "I've just started learning PowerPoint" Baker couldn't find even a handful of colleagues to back him.
I'd laugh, if the rest of the field weren't so dismal.
What do people reckon for the final two? Hunt Vs Truss, the pro and anti Boris candidates?
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:03 pm
by Bird on a Fire
I reckon Sunak vs Truss
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Tue Jul 12, 2022 7:20 pm
by TopBadger
Four men and four women... half white and half non-white...
I don't give the Tories much credit for stuff but full marks for equality of representation there...
They can now proceed to let themselves down by narrowing it down to the only two white men...
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:24 am
by Tessa K
shpalman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:08 pm
Javid is out. So we're left with
Kemi Badenoch
Suella Braverman
Jeremy Hunt
Penny Mordaunt
Rishi Sunak
Liz Truss
Tom Tugendhat
Nadhim Zahawi
The Hateful Eight.
(There's going to be a movie/fiction reference for every stage of the whittling down)
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:36 am
by Little waster
Tessa K wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:24 am
shpalman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:08 pm
Javid is out. So we're left with
Kemi Badenoch
Suella Braverman
Jeremy Hunt
Penny Mordaunt
Rishi Sunak
Liz Truss
Tom Tugendhat
Nadhim Zahawi
The Hateful Eight.
(There's going to be a movie/fiction reference for every stage of the whittling down)
I have very little optimism I’ll get to use my “so it’s “October For the “Red” Hunt” reference.
Current polling makes a “Penny Dreadful” quip almost certain.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:54 am
by jimbob
Little waster wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:36 am
Tessa K wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:24 am
shpalman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:08 pm
Javid is out. So we're left with
Kemi Badenoch
Suella Braverman
Jeremy Hunt
Penny Mordaunt
Rishi Sunak
Liz Truss
Tom Tugendhat
Nadhim Zahawi
The Hateful Eight.
(There's going to be a movie/fiction reference for every stage of the whittling down)
I have very little optimism I’ll get to use my “so it’s “October For the “Red” Hunt” reference.
Current polling makes a “Penny Dreadful” quip almost certain.
Tugendhat apparently "fluffed his lines" by mentioning how cooperation with Europe worked well.
I think he might be positioning himself for Leader of the Opposition after the wingnuts lose the next election.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:17 pm
by shpalman
shpalman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:08 pm
Kemi Badenoch
Suella Braverman
Jeremy Hunt
Penny Mordaunt
Rishi Sunak
Liz Truss
Tom Tugendhat
Nadhim Zahawi
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:41 pm
by Tessa K
shpalman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:17 pm
shpalman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:08 pm
Kemi Badenoch
Suella Braverman
Jeremy Hunt
Penny Mordaunt
Rishi Sunak
Liz Truss
Tom Tugendhat
Nadhim Zahawi
Well that saves a lot of journalistic embarrassment if c.nt is out.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:52 pm
by IvanV
Tessa K wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:41 pm
shpalman wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 4:17 pm
shpalman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:08 pm
Kemi Badenoch
Suella Braverman
Jeremy Hunt
Penny Mordaunt
Rishi Sunak
Liz Truss
Tom Tugendhat
Nadhim Zahawi
Well that saves a lot of journalistic embarrassment if c.nt is out.
I thought the other loser of the day has recently been showing much more than the expected quantity of c.ntishness for a Tory minister. First in his taking a job from Johnson and stabbing him later the same day. And then in advocating huge tax cuts from his new office of Chancellor, so irresponsible in present economic conditions. Or else an outrageous lie. I'm rather expecting his stay in that office will be a short one. Because if it isn't, there's a risk we'll be well and truly rogered.
There's a couple of others I'm rather surprised got enough votes to carry on.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:29 pm
by Tessa K
The Sinister Six.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:14 pm
by IvanV
Tessa K wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 5:29 pm
The Sinister Six.
Or the Shabby Six.
It's shabby how all of the leadership contenders buy into Johnson's politics of distraction, by supporting his manufactured and potentially perpetual dispute over Northern Ireland.
Though that Penny Mordaunt is sinister.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:19 pm
by Stephanie
You will all be delighted to know that Kemi Badenoch has the support of Lozza Fox, Rod Liddle and Toby Young
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:09 pm
by IvanV
Stephanie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:19 pm
You will all be delighted to know that Kemi Badenoch has the support of Lozza Fox, Rod Liddle and Toby Young
I confess when I heard Kemi Badenoch was standing, I didn't know whether the name referred to a man or a woman.
So I have just read her heart-warming bio in Wikipedia. What a banker she is. I so loved the bit about her hacking into Harriet Harman's website.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:19 pm
by Little waster
Stephanie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:19 pm
Lozza Fox, Rod Liddle and Toby Young
Now there’s a topical chat show that would be pulled before the first ad-break.
I heard they had Morrissey lined up to perform a song about that time his dad bought the wrong coloured shoes off Amazon and wanted a refund in Part 3.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:21 am
by shpalman
I'll put them in order according to
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ng ... ll-results
shpalman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 12, 2022 5:08 pm
Rishi Sunak 88
Penny Mordaunt 67
Liz Truss 50
Kemi Badenoch 40
Tom Tugendhat 37
Suella Braverman 32
Nadhim Zahawi 25
Jeremy Hunt 18
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:27 am
by lpm
I've given each a score out of 10 for action on climate breakdown, and ranked them accordingly.
Rishi Sunak 0
Penny Mordaunt 0
Liz Truss 0
Kemi Badenoch 0
Tom Tugendhat 0
Suella Braverman 0
Nadhim Zahawi 0
Jeremy Hunt 0
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:49 am
by IvanV
lpm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:27 am
I've given each a score out of 10 for action on climate breakdown, and ranked them accordingly.
Rishi Sunak 0
Penny Mordaunt 0
Liz Truss 0
Kemi Badenoch 0
Tom Tugendhat 0
Suella Braverman 0
Nadhim Zahawi 0
Jeremy Hunt 0
Of interest to many ordinary voters would be how they rate on levelling up. Have you got any suggestions for how they would score on that?
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:59 am
by TopBadger
IvanV wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 7:09 pm
Stephanie wrote: ↑Wed Jul 13, 2022 6:19 pm
You will all be delighted to know that Kemi Badenoch has the support of Lozza Fox, Rod Liddle and Toby Young
I confess when I heard Kemi Badenoch was standing, I didn't know whether the name referred to a man or a woman.
So I have just read her heart-warming bio in Wikipedia. What a banker she is. I so loved the bit about her hacking into Harriet Harman's website.
I only know her because she's our MP. She's not well liked locally at all - the local council is not Tory but instead ran by a residents political group. That said it's a safe seat because at GE time most will vote for anything with a blue rosette and Labour and Liberals insist on both running candidates to split the non-tory vote. AIUI she's very much part of the Westminster bubble, lives in Wimbledon and deigns to visit her actual constituency only a few times a year for some photo op or other. No real clue about local issues at all and doesn't bother to even reply to mail (at least the prior Tory MP lived in the constituency and replied to enquiries). Her voting record is atrocious but then that's normal for Tories.
I'm honestly surprised at the support Rishi is getting... Bojo is hated yet he enabled him and has a non-dom taxing dodging spouse (good to see Starmer start to pick at these threads yesterday).
The support that Truss has is scary - the loony wing of the Tories isn't going away anytime soon. Next few rounds will be very interesting.
I think the Tories need a sensible, fairly dull, non-tainted person and Tugendhat seems of what little I know of him to be the closest to that description but I think he'll be lucky to be in the last 4, let alone 2.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:39 pm
by Little waster
I don't like Hunt at all but the received wisdom was that he was the best of a bad bunch; he was supposedly what passes for a moderate in the current Tory cult and a competent safe pair of hands as a Minister (YMMV, MMCertainlyFV!).
So it was obvious he was always going to come dead last.
Tugendhat was the only other one in that category and he's going to last a slightly shorter length of time then that pint of milk I've left on the window-sill at work.
Mordaunt had one of her supporters on Newsnight last night. His answer to every question was a variation of "she has a big majority donchyaknow so her constituents must like her". In 4 separate answers he said that. He very briefly went off-script and mentioned her brief time as Defence Minister (3 months) but couldn't bring to mind anything she did while she was there. Did I mention she has a big majority? Which gives you some insight into the intellectual depth of his support.
The Rotherham focus group piece was fun in that the name recognition of the candidates was inversely proportional to their ratings, normally in these things the pollsters include a made-up option just to control for people fabricating an opinion they don't have, I can only assume they didn't this time because they were afeared that Sir Placey McPlaceholder-Face would end up next PM by acclamation.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:51 pm
by Trinucleus
Little waster wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:39 pm
The Rotherham focus group piece was fun in that the name recognition of the candidates was inversely proportional to their ratings, normally in these things the pollsters include a made-up option just to control for people fabricating an opinion they don't have, I can only assume they didn't this time because they were afeared that Sir Placey McPlaceholder-Face would end up next PM by acclamation.
Boris will have sat well with them, and the 'get Brexit done ' slogan absolutely resonated with people. Now they'll be faced with an actual Tory I can't see many of the red wall gains staying blue
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 12:53 pm
by jimbob
lpm wrote: ↑Thu Jul 14, 2022 10:27 am
I've given each a score out of 10 for action on climate breakdown, and ranked them accordingly.
Rishi Sunak 0
Penny Mordaunt 0
Liz Truss 0
Kemi Badenoch 0
Tom Tugendhat 0
Suella Braverman 0
Nadhim Zahawi 0
Jeremy Hunt 0
I think Mordaunt probably scores negative on that
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:10 pm
by Tessa K
Suella
Great, now I don't have to remember how to spell it.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:23 pm
by lpm
And soon won't need to remember how to spell Tom Tugendtwat either, he scraped through but his vote went down.
Re: Who's next?
Posted: Thu Jul 14, 2022 2:29 pm
by El Pollo Diablo
I know it's a cavalcade of c.nts, but thank f.ck Braverman's out