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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by AMS » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:00 pm

It may also be about the Senate elections. McConnell has been distancing himself from Trump on the WH Covid cluster(f.ck). Is this Pelosi move part of a strategy to make sure Senate Repubs stay lashed to the mast of the sinking ship?

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by dyqik » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:15 pm

AMS wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:00 pm
It may also be about the Senate elections. McConnell has been distancing himself from Trump on the WH Covid cluster(f.ck). Is this Pelosi move part of a strategy to make sure Senate Repubs stay lashed to the mast of the sinking ship?
Trump handed her a massive gift today by saying he wanted a bigger stimulus deal than the House bill. Which was reduced to try and get the Senate to even consider it.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by FlammableFlower » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:21 pm

Ha, Pelosi has said Trump is in an "altered state of mind" due to the drugs.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by Woodchopper » Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:46 pm

FlammableFlower wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 7:21 pm
Ha, Pelosi has said Trump is in an "altered state of mind" due to the drugs.
An Altered Statesman*





*someone else first thought of that one.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by Woodchopper » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:33 pm

Trump [...] plans to appear on Fox News Friday night for a medical “evaluation” on Tucker Carlson’s TV show — in what will likely be among the most watched tele-health session in history.
https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/10/09 ... ow-tonight

The script writers really have jumped the shark with this move.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by dyqik » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:45 pm

Odds on a coughing fit during it?

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by sTeamTraen » Fri Oct 09, 2020 8:56 pm

dyqik wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 6:38 pm
It's about the lame duck period more than the election, I think.
Ah, that makes sense. Get the nuclear codes out of Trump's hands, plus Pence gets to tell his grandkids he was President of the Goddamn Yoonited States, if only for two months.
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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by Woodchopper » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:11 am

Suggestion that Trump had Covid for a while before it was announced. If so he did a masterful job of hiding it during the debate. Maybe all the amphetamines were responsible for the interruptions.
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1 ... 20642?s=20

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:27 am

Vertigowooyay wrote:
Fri Oct 09, 2020 5:11 pm
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Fri Oct 09, 2020 2:44 am

I doubt it will come to much, but the 25th amendment definitely needs to be used right the f.ck now.
Even Hannity didn’t know what the f.ck was going on here:
"California is gonna have to ration water. You wanna know why? Because they send millions of gallons of water out to sea, out to the Pacific. Because they want to take care of certain little tiny fish, that aren't doing very well without water."
"Number one, [California] should let water come down from the north, and accept it instead of throwing it out to the Pacific. But you always have to have forest management"
Sounds like Trump has just discovered the concept of 'rivers', and doesn't like what he's hearing.
“One of the penalties of an ecological education is that one lives alone in a world of wounds.”
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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by AMS » Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:23 am

Woodchopper wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:11 am
Suggestion that Trump had Covid for a while before it was announced. If so he did a masterful job of hiding it during the debate. Maybe all the amphetamines were responsible for the interruptions.
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1 ... 20642?s=20
They are being very cagey about when he last tested negative too. It's possible they either knew or suspected they had an outbreak within the White House including Trump himself well before the debate with Biden, and possibly before the Supreme Court announcement.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by Martin_B » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:16 am

AMS wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:23 am
Woodchopper wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:11 am
Suggestion that Trump had Covid for a while before it was announced. If so he did a masterful job of hiding it during the debate. Maybe all the amphetamines were responsible for the interruptions.
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1 ... 20642?s=20
They are being very cagey about when he last tested negative too. It's possible they either knew or suspected they had an outbreak within the White House including Trump himself well before the debate with Biden, and possibly before the Supreme Court announcement.
That would correlate with the reports of the entire Trump team turning up at the debate location too late to be tested and getting in by saying "We don't have Covid, scout's honour"
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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by insignificant » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:30 am

The fish thing refers to the Delta Smelt, which might be functionally extinct in the wild because of water extraction - link from The Guardian

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by jimbob » Sat Oct 10, 2020 2:41 pm

Martin_B wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:16 am
AMS wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 8:23 am
Woodchopper wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:11 am
Suggestion that Trump had Covid for a while before it was announced. If so he did a masterful job of hiding it during the debate. Maybe all the amphetamines were responsible for the interruptions.
https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1 ... 20642?s=20
They are being very cagey about when he last tested negative too. It's possible they either knew or suspected they had an outbreak within the White House including Trump himself well before the debate with Biden, and possibly before the Supreme Court announcement.
That would correlate with the reports of the entire Trump team turning up at the debate location too late to be tested and getting in by saying "We don't have Covid, scout's honour"


Am I straying into tinfoil hat territory, that wondering if they knew and decided to actually see if they could get Biden's camp infected (and Harris via Pence if he's ill)
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by dyqik » Sat Oct 10, 2020 3:33 pm

This whole Administration and Campaign is all about stupid conspiracy tricks. So what would normally be tinfoil hat territory is entirely plausible if it just involves the campaign and White House.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by FlammableFlower » Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:51 pm

For a man who's so healthy for some reason has flesh-coloured bandages on his right hand.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by lpm » Sat Oct 10, 2020 9:18 pm

He's allowed to have a band aid. He's been ill.

But surprised they spiked him in the hand. That can leave painful bruising, particularly in the elderly. They're supposed to stick those thing in the arm.
I'll miss him after he's died in the pandemic

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by AMS » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:29 pm

FlammableFlower wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:51 pm
For a man who's so healthy for some reason has flesh-coloured bandages on his right hand.
The monoclonal antibody cocktail will probably have been delivered IV.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by EACLucifer » Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:30 pm

AMS wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 10:29 pm
FlammableFlower wrote:
Sat Oct 10, 2020 7:51 pm
For a man who's so healthy for some reason has flesh-coloured bandages on his right hand.
The monoclonal antibody cocktail will probably have been delivered IV.
So will the Remdesivir, I think.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by Woodchopper » Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:02 am

An interesting detail
https://twitter.com/jivedurkey/status/1 ... 56705?s=21

Trumps doctor no longer signs the memos, which contain errors.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by EACLucifer » Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:31 am

Woodchopper wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:02 am
An interesting detail
https://twitter.com/jivedurkey/status/1 ... 56705?s=21

Trumps doctor no longer signs the memos, which contain errors.
The "fever free for over 24 hours" thing might be admitting a recent fever, but it might also just be chosen as a phrasing because fever free is part of the CDC criteria for disease free; "he ticks that box", so to speak.

Hard to say, when one cannot trust a damn thing they say.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by Stephanie » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:17 am

This is an interesting article https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/10/us/p ... virus.html
In several phone calls last weekend from the presidential suite at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, Mr. Trump shared an idea he was considering: When he left the hospital, he wanted to appear frail at first when people saw him, according to people with knowledge of the conversations. But underneath his button-down dress shirt, he would wear a Superman T-shirt, which he would reveal as a symbol of strength when he ripped open the top layer. He ultimately did not go ahead with the stunt.
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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by discovolante » Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:20 am

Stephanie wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 7:17 am
This is an interesting article https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/10/us/p ... virus.html
In several phone calls last weekend from the presidential suite at Walter Reed National Military Medical Center, Mr. Trump shared an idea he was considering: When he left the hospital, he wanted to appear frail at first when people saw him, according to people with knowledge of the conversations. But underneath his button-down dress shirt, he would wear a Superman T-shirt, which he would reveal as a symbol of strength when he ripped open the top layer. He ultimately did not go ahead with the stunt.
He should've gone as Willy Wonka and done a somersault.
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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by sTeamTraen » Sun Oct 11, 2020 10:31 am

Woodchopper wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:02 am
An interesting detail
https://twitter.com/jivedurkey/status/1 ... 56705?s=21

Trumps doctor no longer signs the memos, which contain errors.
"This morning the President drank a bigly cup of covfefe".
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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by dyqik » Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:25 am

EACLucifer wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:31 am
Woodchopper wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:02 am
An interesting detail
https://twitter.com/jivedurkey/status/1 ... 56705?s=21

Trumps doctor no longer signs the memos, which contain errors.
The "fever free for over 24 hours" thing might be admitting a recent fever, but it might also just be chosen as a phrasing because fever free is part of the CDC criteria for disease free; "he ticks that box", so to speak.

Hard to say, when one cannot trust a damn thing they say.
Reducing fever is also a direct effect of the steroids he was given. Whether he's fever free because they aren't ramping his dose down is an open question.

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Re: Donald Trump's health

Post by Grumble » Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:32 pm

dyqik wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 11:25 am
EACLucifer wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:31 am
Woodchopper wrote:
Sun Oct 11, 2020 4:02 am
An interesting detail
https://twitter.com/jivedurkey/status/1 ... 56705?s=21

Trumps doctor no longer signs the memos, which contain errors.
The "fever free for over 24 hours" thing might be admitting a recent fever, but it might also just be chosen as a phrasing because fever free is part of the CDC criteria for disease free; "he ticks that box", so to speak.

Hard to say, when one cannot trust a damn thing they say.
Reducing fever is also a direct effect of the steroids he was given. Whether he's fever free because they aren't ramping his dose down is an open question.
What are the consequences if you stay on these steroids?
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