Were they confused about which end to fit the ventilator to?
Another use case for that science toilet you posted about.
Were they confused about which end to fit the ventilator to?
Not sure what whataboutery has to do with it. Boris is a bad person and when he dies the world will be a slightly better place for him having left it. If it so happens that he dies from Covid-19 after his government were all 'does it really matter if a hundred thousand or so old and weak people die?', then in addition to the global balance of c.nt/not-c.nt being tilted slightly for the better, it will also be thematically satisfying.
Yeah whataboutery would require highlighting one of the many c.ntish but irrelevant things Johnson has done throughout his life.secret squirrel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:26 amNot sure what whataboutery has to do with it. Boris is a bad person and when he dies the world will be a slightly better place for him having left it. If it so happens that he dies from Covid-19 after his government were all 'does it really matter if a hundred thousand or so old and weak people die?', then in addition to the global balance of c.nt/not-c.nt being tilted slightly for the better, it will also be thematically satisfying.
It's a weird residual from the days when people believed prayers would actually work. We all know it's silly to pray for magical healing, but feel sending best wishes to strangers is somehow still the right thing to do.Stephanie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:52 pmIt's not even just that. I don't wish anyone to die, but I shouldn't have to offer best wishes. Why? Thoughts and prayers don't cure covid, so Johnson is under no greater threat by me not giving a sh.t than if I did.
I'm just not into pointless displays of sympathy for c.nts.
+ a GoogolplexBoustrophedon wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 8:40 amThis.tom p wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:54 amBut she's right.
What kind of lickspittle feels the need to wish a psychopathic c.nt well because he's a victim of his own arrogance?
He would kill every one of us without blinking if he thought it would personally enrich or empower him.
Plus, Boris is his stage name. Don't further the use of it. He's not your f.cking mate, and if he was, he'd have tried to f.ck your wife by now.
I just came here to ask exactly this. I'm not a doctor or any kind of expert but if they are telling the truth about his condition and treatment, I cannot fathom why he needs to be taking up a precious ICU bed.purplehaze wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:49 pmIf PM Johnson doesn't have pneumonia and is only in need of oxygen then why is he in an ICU?
A HDU would be better and would free up the space for those who actually need it.
I would have thought.
Because as PM he's more important than someone else's dad, mom, granddad, nan, etc...
I have no idea whether you're being sarcastic or not, but I'm not sure it's relevant. If he's really in the condition stated and not on any kind of artificial ventilation, what benefit is he receiving from being in an ICU bed, that he couldn't receive equally as well in, say, an HDU bed? It's a genuine question as IANAD and may well be missing something.
There has been a whole load of inconsistency all along about the publicly revealed info on his Covid status, how ill he is, how capable he is of working and all and all.bagpuss wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:05 pmI just came here to ask exactly this. I'm not a doctor or any kind of expert but if they are telling the truth about his condition and treatment, I cannot fathom why he needs to be taking up a precious ICU bed.purplehaze wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:49 pmIf PM Johnson doesn't have pneumonia and is only in need of oxygen then why is he in an ICU?
A HDU would be better and would free up the space for those who actually need it.
I would have thought.
With you there!Little waster wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:59 pmYeah whataboutery would require highlighting one of the many c.ntish but irrelevant things Johnson has done throughout his life.secret squirrel wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 11:26 amNot sure what whataboutery has to do with it. Boris is a bad person and when he dies the world will be a slightly better place for him having left it. If it so happens that he dies from Covid-19 after his government were all 'does it really matter if a hundred thousand or so old and weak people die?', then in addition to the global balance of c.nt/not-c.nt being tilted slightly for the better, it will also be thematically satisfying.
Whereas in this instance we have a person who has repeatedly made conscious decisions to endanger the public; in running down the UK's health and social care services for a decade, in refusing to engage in an EU-wide emergency procurement program because of the short-term optics, in prioritising the economy over public safety in delaying the lockdown for far too long and then botching its implementation, and even in consistently failing to follow his own basic advice regarding social distancing.
In each case he knew that his choices would result in additional death and morbidity but he did it anyway with relish, because he simply doesn't give a f.ck. It just never occurred to him that he personally could be the one to pay the blood price of his decisions for once.
My sister is a senior nurse who has spent the last few weeks desperately trying to scrounge together enough PPE to keep her team and her patients safe, yesterday she was on a course explaining to her the current guidelines on triaging the seriously ill, on deciding who will get the limited resources and who will be left to die, in preparation for the weeks to come. Even if we dodge the COVID-19 bullet personally, she is still going to have to live with those decisions for the rest of her life because of the choices Johnson has made. I don't specifically wish him any harm but if it comes to the crunch and you had to make that life-and-death choice between Johnson and A.N.Other could you, hand on your heart, choose Johnson?
I'm not a doctor either but I have been in an ICU patient, spent the night there, and I had no idea as I was totally out of it.bagpuss wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:23 pmI have no idea whether you're being sarcastic or not, but I'm not sure it's relevant. If he's really in the condition stated and not on any kind of artificial ventilation, what benefit is he receiving from being in an ICU bed, that he couldn't receive equally as well in, say, an HDU bed? It's a genuine question as IANAD and may well be missing something.
Some of which is summarized in https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... o-hospital from yesterday evening.
Some Conservative MPs are worried that Downing Street’s evasiveness on the seriousness of the prime minister’s condition will undermine trust in what they say going forward.
Mrs g was an anaesthetist and she is perplexed as well. He doesn't appear to need to be in intensive therapy as none of his bits have stopped working*. He would need special treatment on account of security stuff.bagpuss wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 4:05 pmI just came here to ask exactly this. I'm not a doctor or any kind of expert but if they are telling the truth about his condition and treatment, I cannot fathom why he needs to be taking up a precious ICU bed.purplehaze wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 3:49 pmIf PM Johnson doesn't have pneumonia and is only in need of oxygen then why is he in an ICU?
A HDU would be better and would free up the space for those who actually need it.
I would have thought.
There is a bit of a difference between best wishes and not-being-dead wishes, no?Stephanie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:52 pmIt's not even just that. I don't wish anyone to die, but I shouldn't have to offer best wishes. Why? Thoughts and prayers don't cure covid, so Johnson is under no greater threat by me not giving a sh.t than if I did.
I'm just not into pointless displays of sympathy for c.nts.
Which one?
What's your point?greyspoke wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 6:05 pmThere is a bit of a difference between best wishes and not-being-dead wishes, no?Stephanie wrote: ↑Tue Apr 07, 2020 12:52 pmIt's not even just that. I don't wish anyone to die, but I shouldn't have to offer best wishes. Why? Thoughts and prayers don't cure covid, so Johnson is under no greater threat by me not giving a sh.t than if I did.
I'm just not into pointless displays of sympathy for c.nts.