Scrutable

bob sterman wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:44 am

shpalman wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 9:25 am

(with the caveat that the Italian press may have exaggerated this from "also there is an Italian specialist somewhere in the same hospital")

So THE consultant taking care of Johnson is a virologist? Now if I was in Johnson's position - while I might like them to talk to a virologist - I think I'd prefer having my breathing looked after by an intensive care & anaesthetics consultant.

Or do staff shortages mean we now have virologists responsible for intubating patients?

A colleague's son is going into facial reconstruction as a discipline. He's finished his dentistry degree and is was finishing the med-school part.

He's currently in a local hospital and has been replacing anaesthetetists for their more basic procedures

Pucksoppet wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:58 pm

lpm wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:19 pm

Latest update:

He is "still in good spirits".

I had thought he might be.

He hasn't got to that stage of the party where you think it is a good idea to try a cocktail of Crème de Menthe and Advocaat after raiding the back of the sadly depleted drinks cabinet.

I drank most of a bottle of creme de menthe once, and the next morning I did a luridly green poo.

At least we can be sure Johnson hasn't yet suffered that indignity.

can we? He'll have pipes coming out of him all over the place, poor sod.

plodder wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 4:34 pm

can we? He'll have pipes coming out of him all over the place, poor sod.

True, but I don't think any of those pipes would deliver a minty-fresh ringpiece. I may just be out-of-touch with modern care methods and hospital food though.

He's been moved out of ICU.

And according to the spokesperson "He is in extremely good spirits."

lpm wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:23 pm

He's been moved out of ICU.

And according to the spokesperson "He is in extremely good spirits."

God he's going to be insufferably cheerful when he gets out isn't he.

Who the f.ck is in a good mood when they're in hospital?

I did read some stuff saying it takes a long while to regain full strength after spending any time in an ICU for pneumonia. It's not something people just bounce back from straight away.

discovolante wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:48 pm

lpm wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 6:23 pm

He's been moved out of ICU.

And according to the spokesperson "He is in extremely good spirits."

God he's going to be insufferably cheerful when he gets out isn't he.
Who the f.ck is in a good mood when they're in hospital?

It's all the thoughts and prayers and clapping that saved him, obviously.

jimbob wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm

A colleague's son is going into facial reconstruction as a discipline. He's finished his dentistry degree and is was finishing the med-school part.

He's currently in a local hospital and has been replacing anaesthetetists for their more basic procedures

There was a cartoon circulating a week or so ago saying "Wash your hands. You don't want to be intubated by a psychiatrist".

sTeamTraen wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:07 pm

jimbob wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm

A colleague's son is going into facial reconstruction as a discipline. He's finished his dentistry degree and is was finishing the med-school part.

He's currently in a local hospital and has been replacing anaesthetetists for their more basic procedures

There was a cartoon circulating a week or so ago saying "Wash your hands. You don't want to be intubated by a psychiatrist".

I saw something similar but mentioning veterinary nurses alongside an email supposedly recruiting them to assist at NHS Nightingale!

mediocrity511 wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:29 pm

sTeamTraen wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:07 pm

jimbob wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm

A colleague's son is going into facial reconstruction as a discipline. He's finished his dentistry degree and is was finishing the med-school part.

He's currently in a local hospital and has been replacing anaesthetetists for their more basic procedures

There was a cartoon circulating a week or so ago saying "Wash your hands. You don't want to be intubated by a psychiatrist".

I saw something similar but mentioning veterinary nurses alongside an email supposedly recruiting them to assist at NHS Nightingale!

Neighbour is a specialist in paediatric allergies. She’s now helping in intensive care doing the less complicated bits.

Saw the ICU doctor two doors up who was struck low with it, he’s up and about now after weeks of self isolation. Looks exhausted, but he’s back at work. They haven’t tested him though. WTAF?

My thoughts are with Boris.

AMS wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 7:13 pm

I did read some stuff saying it takes a long while to regain full strength after spending any time in an ICU for pneumonia. It's not something people just bounce back from straight away.

When Mrs V had Legionnaires she was in ICU for a week, it was the added complication of the pneumonia that really did the damage - she was completely sedated for 5 days. When she left ICU she had a week in a normal ward before being allowed home. She had no sense of smell or taste, suffered from what she described as a low pitched tinnitus almost constantly, had panic attacks if she dozed off and could only eat small quantities but very frequently. It physically and mentally drained her and took about 4 months to fully recover although she did go back to work after 2 months, but only part time and only if I drove her in.

I simply can't believe that anyone, however strong or fit they claim to be, can easily shrug that sort of trauma.

Yes, but was Mrs V in good spirits throughout? That's what counts.

lpm wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:33 pm

Yes, but was Mrs V in good spirits throughout? That's what counts.

Probably depends on whether she was a fighter. Very important to be a fighter.

Difficult to say if she was in good spirits, what with the frequent nose bleeds and constipation. She certainly was a fighter though, 2 weeks after leaving hospital she applied for the Chief Exec post at her NHS trust and got it.

sTeamTraen wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 8:07 pm

jimbob wrote: ↑

Thu Apr 09, 2020 2:43 pm

A colleague's son is going into facial reconstruction as a discipline. He's finished his dentistry degree and is was finishing the med-school part.

He's currently in a local hospital and has been replacing anaesthetetists for their more basic procedures

There was a cartoon circulating a week or so ago saying "Wash your hands. You don't want to be intubated by a psychiatrist".

Likewise you wouldn't want me (in my working days) doing personal care and the rest: "What exactly is stopping you from doing that? What do you gain from having this much of someone else's attention?"

Apparently Downing Street have said today he's improved further and is now not just in "good spirits" but in "very good spirits"!

Can his spirits get any better? We'll just have to wait and see...

I think the traditional progress is to excellent spirits. If you get to high spirits you may have gone too far.

Has anyone got a spirits chart, equivalent to the Bristol stool chart?

Martin Y wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:40 pm

... Has anyone got a spirits chart, equivalent to the Bristol stool chart?

There are numerous visual renderings like

Ascension and Mission

bmforre wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:02 pm

Martin Y wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:40 pm

... Has anyone got a spirits chart, equivalent to the Bristol stool chart?

There are numerous visual renderings like

Ascension and Mission

Right. Very inspiring. And remind me; it was on the third day that Boris arose from the ICU, was it?

Martin Y wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:40 pm

bmforre wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 1:02 pm

Martin Y wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 12:40 pm

... Has anyone got a spirits chart, equivalent to the Bristol stool chart?

There are numerous visual renderings like

Ascension and Mission

Right. Very inspiring. And remind me; it was on the third day that Boris arose from the ICU, was it?

Best you don't look at the Sun's front page. Offensive on so many levels

murmur wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:29 am

Likewise you wouldn't want me (in my working days) doing personal care and the rest: "What exactly is stopping you from doing that? What do you gain from having this much of someone else's attention?"

What was your job?

sTeamTraen wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 2:00 pm

murmur wrote: ↑

Fri Apr 10, 2020 10:29 am

Likewise you wouldn't want me (in my working days) doing personal care and the rest: "What exactly is stopping you from doing that? What do you gain from having this much of someone else's attention?"

What was your job?

Senior nurse in community CAMHS, specialist areas assessment of deliberate self-harm, gender identity issues, depression'n'that, made myself pretty good at autism and ADHD assessment, even though I wasn't interested; last did any class of ward work in 1999 and most of that was in acute, especially secure, adult psychiatry. Last did anything like personal care when I was a student in the '80s...

ETA So I would never have been much use at the basic face to face stuff required now. Some crisis management is another matter. However, I'm too ong off the register (6+ years) and if not in a high risk group then not far off.

This is not a parody...

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I’m looking to raise £1000 to cover the cost of purchasing a pair of PURDEY Sterling Silver Duelling Cufflinks from Harrods, These cufflinks cost £645 and then the additional funds will be used to get a professional engraving put onto each cufflinks.

No matter where you stand left-wing or right-wing , you can only agree that Boris has led the United Kingdom through COVID-19 with sheer determination and passion for his country and the people within. Boris has worked relentlessly and if we look at what our UK Prime Minister is paid compared to that of a professional footballer It is minuscule especially for doing the job that he does and having the burden of responsibility that he does.