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Anti lockdown demo

Post by Tessa K » Sat May 16, 2020 5:46 pm

Anti-lockdown protestors in Hyde Park in London today were the triple whammy of woo - anti-vaxxers, 5G conspiracists and Freemen on the Land with their 'common law'. One of them was Jeremy Corbyn's brother. If he was still leader that would have been used as a stick to beat him with.

It seems different from the US protestors who bang on about their liberty, rights and freedom of choice, this is more conspiracy based.

I get the mentality of conspiracists but making out that there is no pandemic and it's a conspiracy to control the population doesn't hang together even with their logic. It's happening worldwide so who is in charge? Aliens? Or maybe it isn't happening anywhere else and it's just a UK Big Brother exercise?

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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by Opti » Sat May 16, 2020 6:01 pm

Apparently about 10 turned up in Bristol. :D They had to ask each other if this was 'the thing'.

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Re: Anti lockdown demo

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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by Gfamily » Sat May 16, 2020 6:51 pm

Is it reasonable to assume that the ones wearing masks are journalists? It looks like that could be a fair percentage of the people there.
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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by Fishnut » Sat May 16, 2020 6:55 pm

Opti wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 6:01 pm
Apparently about 10 turned up in Bristol. :D They had to ask each other if this was 'the thing'.

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That makes me feel quite relieved. It also shows how little 'grass roots' activism was involved in planning at least some of these events.

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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sat May 16, 2020 7:20 pm

Gfamily wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 6:51 pm
Is it reasonable to assume that the ones wearing masks are journalists? It looks like that could be a fair percentage of the people there.
Not sure. A lot of the "Reopen America" protestors have been wearing masks alongside their firearms.
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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by Little waster » Sat May 16, 2020 7:27 pm

Opti wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 6:01 pm
Apparently about 10 turned up in Bristol. :D They had to ask each other if this was 'the thing'.

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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by AMS » Sat May 16, 2020 9:09 pm

Tessa K wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 5:46 pm

It seems different from the US protestors who bang on about their liberty, rights and freedom of choice ...
It also seems different because none of them are carrying assault rifles.

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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by Gfamily » Sat May 16, 2020 9:23 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 7:20 pm
Gfamily wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 6:51 pm
Is it reasonable to assume that the ones wearing masks are journalists? It looks like that could be a fair percentage of the people there.
Not sure. A lot of the "Reopen America" protestors have been wearing masks alongside their firearms.
That could be so 'the man' can't use his facial recognition software to hunt you down and make you disappear
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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by gosling » Sat May 16, 2020 10:09 pm

Tessa K wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 5:46 pm
I get the mentality of conspiracists but making out that there is no pandemic and it's a conspiracy to control the population doesn't hang together even with their logic. It's happening worldwide so who is in charge? Aliens? Or maybe it isn't happening anywhere else and it's just a UK Big Brother exercise?
I've seen it described as "Jew Flu", so presumably it's another plot to take over the world. Is ZOG still a thing in the batshit crazy corners of the internet?

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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by Tessa K » Sun May 17, 2020 11:12 am

If you're going to protest against lockdown, at least have a party. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-s ... e-52696720

I can only assume that both the groups of protestors and partyers haven't lost anyone, otherwise they might think differently.

If the Government was doing this to control us, you'd think they'd be doing a better job of it. Boris wasn't really ill, was he?

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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by JQH » Sun May 17, 2020 12:57 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 7:20 pm
Gfamily wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 6:51 pm
Is it reasonable to assume that the ones wearing masks are journalists? It looks like that could be a fair percentage of the people there.
Not sure. A lot of the "Reopen America" protestors have been wearing masks alongside their firearms.
If I was part of an armed mob threatening the members of an elected assembly, I'd wear a mask too.
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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by tom p » Sun May 17, 2020 2:04 pm

JQH wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:57 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 7:20 pm
Gfamily wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 6:51 pm
Is it reasonable to assume that the ones wearing masks are journalists? It looks like that could be a fair percentage of the people there.
Not sure. A lot of the "Reopen America" protestors have been wearing masks alongside their firearms.
If I was part of an armed mob threatening the members of an elected assembly, I'd wear a mask too.
Though if I was doing so in America, i'd make sure I didn't cover my whole face. Gotta let some of that pink skin show so the cops won't shoot me.

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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by JQH » Sun May 17, 2020 2:20 pm

tom p wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 2:04 pm
JQH wrote:
Sun May 17, 2020 12:57 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat May 16, 2020 7:20 pm

Not sure. A lot of the "Reopen America" protestors have been wearing masks alongside their firearms.
If I was part of an armed mob threatening the members of an elected assembly, I'd wear a mask too.
Though if I was doing so in America, i'd make sure I didn't cover my whole face. Gotta let some of that pink skin show so the cops won't shoot me.
Good point, well made.

Actually it is a f.cking good point. If the mob had been black or Muslim the police reaction would have been rather more aggressive.
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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by Squeak » Mon May 18, 2020 8:23 am

There's something incredibly sad about American politics that this is not just a cynical lefty joke. They couldn't get convictions to stick for that posse who took over the wildlife refuge at Malheur. I don't think I've heard of any arrests over the people wandering around the Michigan legislature shouting and waving guns. But riot gear and water cannons were considered appropriate tools for managing the pipeline protests in Dakota.

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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by jimbob » Mon May 18, 2020 1:40 pm

Squeak wrote:
Mon May 18, 2020 8:23 am
There's something incredibly sad about American politics that this is not just a cynical lefty joke. They couldn't get convictions to stick for that posse who took over the wildlife refuge at Malheur. I don't think I've heard of any arrests over the people wandering around the Michigan legislature shouting and waving guns. But riot gear and water cannons were considered appropriate tools for managing the pipeline protests in Dakota.
There's a really depressing thread that's been running on what used to be JREF about the behaviour of US police officers, with lots of utterly shocking incidents

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/fo ... p?t=323251
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Re: Anti lockdown demo

Post by Bird on a Fire » Tue May 26, 2020 11:12 pm

I've moved the discussion of the killing of Ahmaud Arbery to US police & murders of black men.
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