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Re: Fascist China

Post by Herainestold » Sat May 30, 2020 1:53 am

The National People’s Congress approved China’s first-ever civil code on Thursday, the final day of the “two sessions” political meetings in Beijing.

The document — a collection of laws related to civil affairs, including property, marriage, family, personal rights, and inheritance — is slated to go into effect in January of next year. The code is aimed at better protecting individuals’ personal information and property, making it easier to sue for divorce or sexual harassment, and delineating a clearer boundary between markets and the government.
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Re: Fascist China

Post by Herainestold » Sat May 30, 2020 2:42 am

New Beijing Hong Kong measures could provoke America to war against China.Trump is looking for an excuse to boost his sagging popularity and American poiltics and the American economy depend on an external enemy and constant war, either hot or cold.

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Re: Fascist China

Post by Herainestold » Sat May 30, 2020 2:49 am

No masks, no social distancing, China has beaten Covid19.

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Re: Fascist China

Post by EACLucifer » Sat May 30, 2020 2:10 pm

Oi, fascist bootlicker - you've been challenged on China's despicable treatment of Uighurs. Are you going to address that, are you just going to continue to spam pathetic propaganda?

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Re: Fascist China

Post by JQH » Sat May 30, 2020 3:49 pm

I predict a bit of whataboutery.
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Re: How to help end structural racism

Post by Herainestold » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:24 am

Woodchopper wrote:
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discovolante wrote:
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I don't think Akala was particularly saying that Europeans are going to get f.cked over by the rise of China etc. Quite the opposite in fact, he was more or less saying that our perceived loss of dominance has caused a bit of an existential crisis in a lot of people who have been so used to being 'on top' that they've decided that what is happening in Europe (whatever that may be) is some kind of invasion or genocide, when obviously we aren't even remotely close to that. But he was arguing that there is a shift in the balance of power at play nonetheless. (That's a fairly simplistic summary...)
I haven’t read the book but I seem to agree with him.

I’m just adding that the people who are finding out whether the new boss is the same as the old boss are in places like Indonesia or Mozambique.
Most of the world will be better off. Including us, even if it doesnt seem that way right now.
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Re: How to help end structural racism

Post by JQH » Wed Dec 02, 2020 11:54 am

Better off being in thrall to China?

Thabo Mbeki doesn't seem to agree
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Re: How to help end structural racism

Post by EACLucifer » Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:40 pm

Herainestold wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 2:24 am
Woodchopper wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 8:16 pm
discovolante wrote:
Tue Dec 01, 2020 7:51 pm
I don't think Akala was particularly saying that Europeans are going to get f.cked over by the rise of China etc. Quite the opposite in fact, he was more or less saying that our perceived loss of dominance has caused a bit of an existential crisis in a lot of people who have been so used to being 'on top' that they've decided that what is happening in Europe (whatever that may be) is some kind of invasion or genocide, when obviously we aren't even remotely close to that. But he was arguing that there is a shift in the balance of power at play nonetheless. (That's a fairly simplistic summary...)
I haven’t read the book but I seem to agree with him.

I’m just adding that the people who are finding out whether the new boss is the same as the old boss are in places like Indonesia or Mozambique.
Most of the world will be better off. Including us, even if it doesnt seem that way right now.
This is absolute b.llsh.t. Ask the Uighurs, or other religious minorities in China. Hell, they are even trying to suppress Mongol language and history, despite Mongols being a model minority prior to this.

Hundreds of thousands - maybe over a million - forced into camps. Cultural sites destroyed. Black people scapegoated for a pandemic caused or worsened by China's culture of secrecy and lies, and likely caused by ethically abhorrent and environmentally destructive practises promoted by the Government.

And you still shill for them, you abhorrent worm.

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Re: How to help end structural racism

Post by Herainestold » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:09 pm

In terms of structural racism, which country's founding principles were based on black slavery, white supremacy and racism? Obviously it is the US and not China.
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Re: How to help end structural racism

Post by EACLucifer » Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:37 pm

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In terms of structural racism, which country's founding principles were based on black slavery, white supremacy and racism? Obviously it is the US and not China.
China is engaged in slavery and ethnic cleansing right the f.ck now. Plenty to talk about in the US's past - and present - but supporting a state that has forced hundreds of thousands into camps and uses them as forced labour solely because of their race and culture is indefensible.

You have been challenged time and time again about China's overt and violent racism towards ethnic minorities within China. This includes their use of forced labour, internment camps and racial scapegoating, and evidence of destruction of mosques and cemetaries. Are you going to continue to ignore questions about China's treatment of the Uighurs, you pathetic f.cking coward?

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Re: Fascist China

Post by discovolante » Wed Dec 02, 2020 8:23 pm

I moved some posts here from the 'how to end structural racism' thread.
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Re: How to help end structural racism

Post by bjn » Wed Dec 02, 2020 9:02 pm

Herainestold wrote:
Wed Dec 02, 2020 6:09 pm
In terms of structural racism, which country's founding principles were based on black slavery, white supremacy and racism? Obviously it is the US and not China.
Someone did a bit of historical murdering, racism and enslavement, but still has problems today because of that. So it’s OK for someone else to do murdering, racism and enslavement now? Great justification.

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Re: Fascist China

Post by Bird on a Fire » Thu Dec 03, 2020 12:41 am

Is the comparison between European empires in the old day and China today; or between "the west" vs China both in the modern day?

Because I think those comparisons might have quite different answers.
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Re: Fascist China

Post by bmforre » Sat Dec 05, 2020 7:31 pm

People disappear, harvested organs appear
Haaretz reports:
China experts and activists claim that the repression of minorities in Xinjiang has escalated in recent years, with thousands of Uighur Muslims in ‘reeducation camps’ being murdered and their organs harvested for wealthy Chinese and foreign patients. The Chinese deny all such allegations
I would prefer to not believe this but I have a lot of respect for Haaretz.

Note that official responses from the Chinese Embassy in Israel are given ample space in the article.

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Re: Fascist China

Post by Bird on a Fire » Mon Mar 22, 2021 7:57 pm

A mere 18 months or so after the first evidence of genocide became apparent, the West has sped into action with a series of far-reaching strikes on no fewer than four (4) of the most important current and former local politicians:
The sanctions, including travel bans and asset freezes, target senior officials in Xinjiang who have been accused of serious human rights violations against Uighur Muslims.

Those targeted have been named as Chen Mingguo, the director of the Xinjiang Public Security Bureau; Wang Mingshan, a member of Xinjiang's Communist Party standing committee; Wang Junzheng, party secretary of the Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps; and the former deputy Communist Party head in Xinjiang, Zhu Hailun. The Xinjiang Production and Construction Corps Public Security Bureau was also sanctioned as an entity.
President-for-life Xi will have no option but to take the matter very seriously indeed:
Mr Raab called the abuse of Uighur Muslims in Xinjiang "one of the worst human rights crises of our time".

"I think it's clear that by acting with our partners - 30 of us in total - we are sending the clearest message to the Chinese government, that the international community will not turn a blind eye to such serious and systematic violations of basic human rights and that we will act in concert to hold those responsible to account," he told fellow parliamentarians.
If he can keep a straight face saying that, Raab cannot be underestimated. He's probably an advanced prototype of some new Western robot, programmed to deliver blatant nonsense as if it were in any way justifiable.

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Re: Fascist China

Post by Bird on a Fire » Tue Mar 23, 2021 2:31 am

Probably about as effective, but a bit funnier:
At the handing-over ceremony for the site in the East End of London where the Chinese embassy is to be relocated, the ambassador boldly proclaimed that it would “write a new chapter for a China-UK golden era”.

Three years later, before the redevelopment has begun, those hopes appear in tatters after councillors in Tower Hamlets voted to consider naming roads and buildings in the surrounding area of the site Tiananmen Square, Uyghur Court, Hong Kong Road and Tibet Hill, to assert “support for the freedom and diversity of our borough”.

In a move that is likely to infuriate the Chinese government, the councillors said they welcomed the relocation of the embassy from the West End but “we must continue to make clear where our own standards and principles apply”.

The motion was passed after months of campaigning by opposition councillors for the local authority to issue a statement about human rights abuses by China, in light of Beijing’s purchase of the Royal Mint site in the borough for its embassy. The repression of Uighur Muslims is particularly sensitive for Tower Hamlets, which has the highest proportion of Muslim residents (38%) of any borough, according to the latest census.
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Re: Fascist China

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:37 pm

Horrible allegations from a defecting detective who fled from China to Europe to blow the whistle on the ongoing genocide in Xinjiang - abducting whole communities, torture, mass rape and internment.

Only partly corroborated for now, but ghastly. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/04/chin ... index.html
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Re: Fascist China

Post by Woodchopper » Wed Oct 06, 2021 9:02 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Oct 06, 2021 1:37 pm
Horrible allegations from a defecting detective who fled from China to Europe to blow the whistle on the ongoing genocide in Xinjiang - abducting whole communities, torture, mass rape and internment.

Only partly corroborated for now, but ghastly. https://edition.cnn.com/2021/10/04/chin ... index.html
Unfortunately this account is very much in line with what other sources have reported happening.

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Re: Fascist China

Post by Bird on a Fire » Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:52 am

Megacourt to process thousands of protestors and dissidents in Hong Kong https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/ ... ts-backlog
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Re: Fascist China

Post by bjn » Sun Apr 10, 2022 7:05 pm

I was listening to The Rest Is History podcast on the Cultural Revolution and it put Xi and his actions in context for me. Xi came of age during the Cultural Revolution, part way through being banished to literally live in a cave in the impoverished countryside alongside his father. Having been a victim of the chaos of the Cultural Revolution his actions can be seen as him going to any and all lengths necessary not to let any disorder occur in China while being committed to lifting the rural poor out of utter destitution. Both of which he’s done by being an utter c.nt and crushing all dissent hideously.

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Re: Fascist China

Post by EACLucifer » Tue May 24, 2022 9:48 am

Huge trove of hacked files relating to Chinese use of concentration camps against the Uighurs.

The files flatly contradict the lies of the fascist PRC regime regarding these camps, and include evidence of shoot to kill policies for those trying to escape.

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Re: Fascist China

Post by Cardinal Fang » Tue May 24, 2022 10:40 am

BBC News are reporting on a massive data dump from hacked police files relating to the Uyghur detention camps

Far from being voluntary education courses, they're detained in places with shoot-to-kill policies for potential escapers often for no reason, whilst children are forced in to state schools that try and squeeze out any hint of their culture of practices.

This BTW counts as genocide - the systematic attempt to eliminate an entire culture

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qiht ... tion-camps

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Re: Fascist China

Post by EACLucifer » Tue May 24, 2022 11:19 am

Cardinal Fang wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 10:40 am
BBC News are reporting on a massive data dump from hacked police files relating to the Uyghur detention camps

Far from being voluntary education courses, they're detained in places with shoot-to-kill policies for potential escapers often for no reason, whilst children are forced in to state schools that try and squeeze out any hint of their culture of practices.

This BTW counts as genocide - the systematic attempt to eliminate an entire culture

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/85qiht ... tion-camps

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The policies to specifically cut Uighur birthrates also count as genocide.

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Re: Fascist China

Post by EACLucifer » Sat May 28, 2022 4:46 pm

Michelle Bachelet has not just praised China's human rights record during a visit, she also ducked questions about China's extensive human rights abuses during a press conference, preferring instead to take questions from the state media of the Chinese fascist regime.

Just in case anyone was still gullible enough to think the UN has even the faintest nano-speck of credibility on human rights issues.

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Re: Fascist China

Post by Lew Dolby » Sat May 28, 2022 6:01 pm

otoh, if she's trying to negotiate an improvement in China's behaviour, ragging them off in a press conference wouldn't exactly be designed to help negotiations.
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