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Re: US police & murders of black men

Post by shpalman » Wed Apr 28, 2021 4:57 pm

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Re: US police & murders of black men

Post by jimbob » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:04 pm

And don't forget that bodycam footage contradicted the initial police reports.

Should be perjury or obstruction of justice for the other cops who were witnesses as well
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Re: US police & murders of black men

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:12 pm

jimbob wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:04 pm
And don't forget that bodycam footage contradicted the initial police reports.

Should be perjury or obstruction of justice for the other cops who were witnesses as well
Pretty much every time there's footage of any sort it seems to contradict the police report (see, e.g., the George Floyd report I posted above).

You'd think that any conviction that rested substantially on the testimony of any proven-liar cop would immediately be unsafe and quashed - were there any justice.

But suffice to say I don't think police reports, at least in the US, a worth anything much as a source of accurate information.
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Re: US police & murders of black men

Post by Fishnut » Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:51 pm

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Verso Books have made the ebook of The End of Policing by Alex Vitale free for an undisclosed length of time. I haven't finished reading it yet but what I have read has been truly eye-opening.
Following on from this, Skeptics in the Pub Online tomorrow is with Alex Vitale at 7pm on Twitch.
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Re: US police & murders of black men

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Apr 28, 2021 7:58 pm

Fishnut wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 6:51 pm
Fishnut wrote:
Thu Apr 22, 2021 8:50 am
Verso Books have made the ebook of The End of Policing by Alex Vitale free for an undisclosed length of time. I haven't finished reading it yet but what I have read has been truly eye-opening.
Following on from this, Skeptics in the Pub Online tomorrow is with Alex Vitale at 7pm on Twitch.
Ooo very good, thanks.
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Re: US police & murders of black men

Post by Matatouille » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:47 pm

Alex Vitale is a week tomorrow, I'm afraid you'll have to wait a bit. Not on this topic but tomorrow is Marianna Spring, the BBC's first disinformation and social media reporter, which should also be good ;).

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Re: US police & murders of black men

Post by Fishnut » Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:50 pm

Matatouille wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:47 pm
Alex Vitale is a week tomorrow, I'm afraid you'll have to wait a bit. Not on this topic but tomorrow is Marianna Spring, the BBC's first disinformation and social media reporter, which should also be good ;).
So it is. I don't know what's wrong with me, I keep thinking it's May already. I also thought it was Tuesday today. God I need to get some variety in my life, the monotony is destroying my sense of time.
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Re: US police & murders of black men

Post by Matatouille » Wed Apr 28, 2021 9:22 pm

Fishnut wrote:
Wed Apr 28, 2021 8:50 pm
So it is. I don't know what's wrong with me, I keep thinking it's May already. I also thought it was Tuesday today. God I need to get some variety in my life, the monotony is destroying my sense of time.
Its still last March to me!

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Re: US police & murders of black men

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Apr 28, 2021 11:23 pm

If it's any consolation I didn't notice the date either, and even put it in my calendar.
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Re: US police & murders of black men

Post by jimbob » Thu Apr 29, 2021 8:53 am

https://www.dailykos.com/story/2021/4/2 ... ent-voting

Ex-Georgia deputy boasted of charging Black people with felonies to make sure they lost their vote

amongst other things
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