what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

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Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Post by lpm » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:16 am

Violent crime and sexual assaults are overwhelmingly male. Given the 90/10 or 95/5 split, it's inevitable that trans women commit violent crime and sexual assaults at a higher rate than cis women. But equally given the tiny number of trans women, the absolute number committed by cis women is much higher.

The statistics for sexual assaults by inmates in UK women's prisons show this. Trans women committed a higher proportion of assaults relative to their numbers.

This led to an adjustment to UK prison policy, with more trans women being kept in men's prisons in separate wings rather than being transferred.

I don't think it's prejudice to point this out. The higher rate of trans women crime has practical policy implications. The role of testosterone or early years upbringing has such a huge effect it can't be deleted as an inconvenient truth.
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Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Post by Stephanie » Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:30 am

I really don't care, if you want to post links to "transcrime" sites, go to Mumsnet.
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Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Post by Squeak » Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:35 am

Stephanie wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:28 am
[Stephanie]I've removed a post with a link that really crosses the line, and edited some others.

We've been trying to allow some discussion to happen here, but I won't hesitate to lock this if people can't avoid breaking rule 3. I have no interest in hosting prejudice.
Thank you. That link was pretty revolting.

Piggy, I can't imagine that anybody here is under the illusion that trans people never commit crimes so your link adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.

What you need to show is that this particular group of people are so dangerous as to pose such a risk to other women that they need to be excluded from various services until a seperate (but presumably equal) service can be set up just for them. A list of alleged wrongdoers goes nowhere near providing such evidence.

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Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Post by lpm » Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:24 pm

Please can the topic be split, as per normal?
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Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Post by Stephanie » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:52 am

lpm wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:24 pm
Please can the topic be split, as per normal?
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Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Post by Piggy » Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:59 am

I was not aware that it was a far-right website. As far as I could see (I've not been back to it), it was not suggesting all trans people are criminal.

Nonetheless, I apologise.

I gave my reasoning for doing so upthread in response to others.

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Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:42 pm

I've now split the "where did the link go?" discussion off into mod baiting, here.
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