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Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:16 am
by lpm
Violent crime and sexual assaults are overwhelmingly male. Given the 90/10 or 95/5 split, it's inevitable that trans women commit violent crime and sexual assaults at a higher rate than cis women. But equally given the tiny number of trans women, the absolute number committed by cis women is much higher.

The statistics for sexual assaults by inmates in UK women's prisons show this. Trans women committed a higher proportion of assaults relative to their numbers.

This led to an adjustment to UK prison policy, with more trans women being kept in men's prisons in separate wings rather than being transferred.

I don't think it's prejudice to point this out. The higher rate of trans women crime has practical policy implications. The role of testosterone or early years upbringing has such a huge effect it can't be deleted as an inconvenient truth.

Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 8:30 am
by Stephanie
I really don't care, if you want to post links to "transcrime" sites, go to Mumsnet.

Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 9:35 am
by Squeak
Stephanie wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:28 am
[Stephanie]I've removed a post with a link that really crosses the line, and edited some others.

We've been trying to allow some discussion to happen here, but I won't hesitate to lock this if people can't avoid breaking rule 3. I have no interest in hosting prejudice.
Thank you. That link was pretty revolting.

Piggy, I can't imagine that anybody here is under the illusion that trans people never commit crimes so your link adds absolutely nothing to the discussion.

What you need to show is that this particular group of people are so dangerous as to pose such a risk to other women that they need to be excluded from various services until a seperate (but presumably equal) service can be set up just for them. A list of alleged wrongdoers goes nowhere near providing such evidence.

*Steph's post ungreened to get through the bbcode filters.

Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Posted: Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:24 pm
by lpm
Please can the topic be split, as per normal?

Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:52 am
by Stephanie
lpm wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 10:24 pm
Please can the topic be split, as per normal?
Yes, the writing style discussion is here

viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1514

Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 11:59 am
by Piggy
I was not aware that it was a far-right website. As far as I could see (I've not been back to it), it was not suggesting all trans people are criminal.

Nonetheless, I apologise.

I gave my reasoning for doing so upthread in response to others.

Re: what the hell is wrong with JK Rowling?

Posted: Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:42 pm
by El Pollo Diablo
I've now split the "where did the link go?" discussion off into mod baiting, here.