"...Manston Airport, where a lorry-holding facility run by the Department for Transport is now full."
"More than 5,000 lorries are being held in Kent, according to the Department for Transport."
"...Manston Airport, where a lorry-holding facility run by the Department for Transport is now full."
<er...>googles<isn't he...didn't he...>jimbob wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:38 pmBrian Moore is very clear about his views.FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 4:03 pm
I also discovered the twitter feed of Brian Moore (he of ex-rugby fame) - he's very anti-Brexit.
There was quite a bit of talk about toilets a few weeks back (usually referred to as "Portaloos", although actual Portaloos from the Portakabin company is a small prefabricated building --- a lot nicer than one of those moulded polythene phone boxes, known in some circles as "the Turdis"). But I don't recall anyone talking about food. Presumably the expectation was that the drivers would have enough ready meals in their cab to get them through the expected 8-12 hour delays.tenchboy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 1:26 pmNo. Well no-one 'from Whitehall' just the Sally Army, local and not so local charities, the local football club...
Our town in Spain had an horrendous autumn. An infection rate per 100,000 of 507 that we've now got down to 90. So how angry would you be to find out someone travelled here from a tier 4 area in the UK on Monday & is out eating & drinking in town?
The thing is, when you arrive in Italy, you have to list all the country you've been in for the past two weeks.We've asked in town & basically there's not much can be done this end as it's UK rules they've broken. They arrived on the last flight before Portugal stopped entry for non citizens/residents. I'm so bl..dy angry though.
Yes, Millennie Al is basically describing freight forwarding, a well established profession. My late dad started as a lorry driver before moving into forwarding, back in the days when he just had a filofax and a map; I imagine that computers might have simplified the task a bit.Millennie Al wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 4:15 amBy phoning each other up? Someone senior enough at one firm calls another to say there is a load that needs moving and can they help. If so, they discuss the formalities, such as insurance, liability, and paperwork, agree fees and eventually it happens. Even if it takes weeks to work out enough agreements, the loads would eventually start getting back to normal. Of course, that's as long as there isn't some other major disruptive factor thatthen gets in the way.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 10:58 amAgain, how? At least give us a waffer-theen clue as to how "the hauliers" are going to crowdsource a truck match-up scheme, including appropriate liability insurance. "Someone else can work it out" is the logic of the Brexiteers with their "intelligent Irish border" technology, and of the advocates of "protect the vulnerable, let us go to the pub" school of COVID denialists.Millennie Al wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 1:15 am
I'm not going to organise it at all. If it happens it will need to be organised by the people actually doing the work - hauliers etc.
I expect that the complications are based on the uncertainty of how long such arrangements will be needed. If it all goes back to normal after 48 hours, then it's still cheaper to just wait it out. And loading and unloading unaccompanied trailers is always a bit slower and more bureaucratic - which is why almost all loads don't go that way. (best case is on ro-ro ferries which have big decks, so one cab can be being detached on one side of the ship while another is manoeuvring into place on the other, and cabs leaving can be fitted into the gaps while the next vehicle is waiting to get in - assuming very few cars, so there is plenty space, which is probably the case right now).Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Wed Dec 23, 2020 10:53 pmHowever, the fact that firms haven't simply phoned up existing freight forwarding and logistics firms to implement this kind of cargo-swapping suggests that there are perhaps some hidden complications.
Post-Brexit I do wonder if the idea of sending containers sans driver through the chunnel/on boats will come into play, given the UK's apparent keenness on restricting movements of working-class labour. But it probably can't be got up and running in a week, and given that they haven't even sorted toilets and food out yet I won't hold my breath.
Ok now the US is imposing tests on UK airline passengers.shpalman wrote: ↑Tue Dec 22, 2020 6:56 pmThe United States says YES PLEASE LETS EXPOSE HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF PEOPLE TO THE NEW MORE TRANSMISSIBLE VARIANT NOT ENOUGH OF THESE f.ckers ARE DEAD YET
Do you have to book the airport test in advance?Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Fri Dec 25, 2020 11:00 amPortugal is demanding tests, obviously. If you don't have a test certificate when you land, you're detained in the airport and tested through the health service.
Tests in the UK are all over £100, most websites say they're sold out, and all of them say that deliveries around Christmas will be extra slow. No test centres near me that I've found yet, but the fragmented nature of privatised testing means I may have missed one.
Testing in Portugal is €65 and will be done at the airport.
0.23% positivity rate, numbercunts.shpalman wrote: ↑Sat Dec 26, 2020 10:36 amLorry backlog clears apparently, although I'll believe it when I see photos of the empty Manston airport and lack of queues on the M20 or wherever they were.
Meh, that only matters to anyone in the UK who wants to eat.
All sorts of different European ones. But you'd need that both the UK and Italy, which are the two I happen to be following, be substantially worse than the rest of Europe and that lorry drivers in Kent waiting to go to Europe aren't mostly British drivers (I'm assuming they aren't mostly Italian, although there certainly were some.) France has had more than 2.5 million cases, Belgium has had a lot for a country that size although its second wave has been effectively suppressed, the Netherlands hasn't suppressed its second wave so well and is maybe near 500 new cases per week per 100,000...
Well that’s just lovely.Brightonian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:08 pmOf 400 Brits quarantining at a Swiss ski resort, half of them have legged it:
https://www.bfmtv.com/international/sui ... 70094.html
I'm imagining them being chased down the mountain by henchmen in black on skimobiles.Little waster wrote: ↑Mon Dec 28, 2020 12:09 pmWell that’s just lovely.Brightonian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:08 pmOf 400 Brits quarantining at a Swiss ski resort, half of them have legged it:
https://www.bfmtv.com/international/sui ... 70094.html
I’m assuming some sort of Steve McQueen scenario involving a motorbike and some barbed wire fences,
They won't be getting much skiing done, as all the lifts are closed on the French side. A lot of people are discovering the delights of cross-country skiing as a result. #1 son, who lives just on the French side of the border near Geneva, is a keen snowboarder and went out with a mate for a couple of runs on a nearby hill; they got fit by walking back up on snowshoes each time.
Only about 12 Britons stay in quarantine in Swiss ski resort after hundreds fleeBrightonian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:08 pmOf 400 Brits quarantining at a Swiss ski resort, half of them have legged it:
https://www.bfmtv.com/international/sui ... 70094.html
May have been some mis-reporting, and they would have had permission to leave.Brightonian wrote: ↑Sun Dec 27, 2020 4:08 pmOf 400 Brits quarantining at a Swiss ski resort, half of them have legged it:
https://www.bfmtv.com/international/sui ... 70094.html
Holiday parties among backpackers in the tourist hotspot have been a common occurrence in other years.
Witnesses told the BBC they believed the majority were from the UK or "not Australian".
"You could hear lots of clearly English accents, and several people were wearing the white English football jerseys"