Taking care - that is: taking it away

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Taking care - that is: taking it away

Post by bmforre » Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:02 am

New old try to take away affordable care
The Trump administration asked the Supreme Court late on Thursday to overturn the Affordable Care Act, telling the court that “the entire ACA must fall.” The administration’s argument comes as thousands of Americans have turned to the government program for health care as they’ve lost jobs amid the coronavirus pandemic.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) denounced the move.

“President Trump and the Republicans’ campaign to rip away the protections and benefits of the Affordable Care Act in the middle of the coronavirus crisis is an act of unfathomable cruelty,” she said in a statement.

The brief was filed in support of a challenge to the ACA by a coalition of Republican governors. Trump had pledged last month to follow through on overturning Obamacare despite the ongoing pandemic.
As far as I know he has not specifically quoted the Bible as authority for this move.
What say his Evangelicals?

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Re: Taking care - that is: taking it away

Post by Bird on a Fire » Fri Jun 26, 2020 12:56 pm

Here's a non-paywalled article https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53190429

The ACA is a delicate piece of legislation. Fining people for not having insurance doesn't quite seem like the right way to provide public healthcare, and leaving the private insurance system largely intact inflates prices for everybody, so even people who technically have insurance can't actually afford healthcare.

I think it's quite a good example of where compromise in politics doesn't really work. Yes, more people have some coverage, which is good, but that coverage isn't necessarily much use and the situation will always be extremely vulnerable to meddling from the Republicans. It's a big shame that Biden is opposed to Medicare For All, because it looks like the Democrats could get the big win we all hoped for and would actually have a chance of passing some useful legislation. Two parties' back-and-forth technocratically tinkering with the ACA will never deliver a sustainable public healthcare solution.
now I'm falling asleep and she's calling acab

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Re: Taking care - that is: taking it away

Post by dyqik » Sun Jun 28, 2020 1:52 pm

I think you need to look a little more carefully at what Biden is proposing: Medicaid available to all, with automatic enrollment alongside unemployment claims, and anyone able to buy in.

Medicaid is more appropriate a base than Medicare, which is aimed at seniors. The main difference between Biden's proposal and Medicare for all is that it doesn't force everyone onto it immediately. Frankly, that would never fly in the US in the current environment anyway, and would probably be blocked by the courts for years.

This proposal is the way the Medicare for all would actually have to start anyway - you can't just shut down all the insurance companies overnight. And it'd take years to set up Medicare for all, while this can start almost immediately. Which means more people get healthcare sooner.

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