Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

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Re: Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

Post by dyqik » Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:00 pm

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Does the Electoral College have to be elected? In the event of a coup could the coup leader not just stuff the EC with loyalists to fulfil the constitutional requirement?
No, no he couldn't.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 2, plus the 23rd Amendment and the 50 laws in 50 states that determine how the electors are selected.

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Re: Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

Post by Grumble » Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:39 am

If there are groups of men in unidentified gear (a badge saying Police means f.ck all without a number next to it) scooping people into vans, shouldn’t it be possible to call the police on them?
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Re: Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

Post by Sciolus » Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:27 am

Grumble wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:39 am
If there are groups of men in unidentified gear (a badge saying Police means f.ck all without a number next to it) scooping people into vans, shouldn’t it be possible to call the police on them?
Does Oregon have a Stand Your Ground law?

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Re: Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

Post by FlammableFlower » Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:53 am

"Naked Athena" leaves Portland law enforcement somewhat flummoxed...

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Re: Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Jul 22, 2020 6:31 pm

Grumble wrote:
Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:39 am
If there are groups of men in unidentified gear (a badge saying Police means f.ck all without a number next to it) scooping people into vans, shouldn’t it be possible to call the police on them?
I mean it should be, but good f.cking luck with that. People who complain about police brutality in the US have a tendency to die in weird circumstances, so it's not just a case of the complaint going nowhere.

The type of people being black-bagged are 'people who look like Black Lives Matter protestors'; it doesn't take much reading between the lines to realise that that's a group of people who don't have good experiences with calling the police in general (because they might arrest or shoot you).

One of the most pernicious effects of this is that there have already been cases of paramilitary militias attending protests,staging counter protests, harassing protestors, etc. Now there are federal officers behaving in the same way, victims of any actual militias can't fight back for fear of repercussions from the law enforcement system.
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Re: Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

Post by plodder » Thu Jul 23, 2020 8:42 am

Police routinely hide their numbers and badges when covering protests in the UK as well. This isn't something new, or limited to the US.

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Re: Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

Post by lpm » Thu Jul 23, 2020 9:02 am

That's slightly different from being sent out onto the streets without even a number or unit identification to cover up. They are basically out there with "POLICE" written on a post-it note and stuck to their chests.
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Post by Bird on a Fire » Thu Jul 23, 2020 10:57 am

Plus the vehicles they're using are literally just minivans they've rented from Enterprise.
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Re: Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

Post by Woodchopper » Wed Jul 29, 2020 7:56 pm

Federal officers to leave downtown Portland
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Re: Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

Post by FlammableFlower » Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:35 pm

And Trump attempts to claim "mission accomplished"...

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Re: Unconstitutional actions by Federal law enforcement in Portland?

Post by Martin Y » Fri Jul 31, 2020 9:50 am

FlammableFlower wrote:
Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:35 pm
And Trump attempts to claim "mission accomplished"...
That rings a depressing bell.

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