Scrutable

JQH wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 21, 2020 8:53 pm

Does the Electoral College have to be elected? In the event of a coup could the coup leader not just stuff the EC with loyalists to fulfil the constitutional requirement?

No, no he couldn't.

Article II, Section 1, Clause 2, plus the 23rd Amendment and the 50 laws in 50 states that determine how the electors are selected.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_St ... al_College

If there are groups of men in unidentified gear (a badge saying Police means f.ck all without a number next to it) scooping people into vans, shouldn’t it be possible to call the police on them?

Grumble wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:39 am

If there are groups of men in unidentified gear (a badge saying Police means f.ck all without a number next to it) scooping people into vans, shouldn’t it be possible to call the police on them?

Does Oregon have a Stand Your Ground law?

"Naked Athena" leaves Portland law enforcement somewhat flummoxed...

Project Lincoln Advert about this:

https://youtu.be/gzHE_SY334o

Grumble wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:39 am

If there are groups of men in unidentified gear (a badge saying Police means f.ck all without a number next to it) scooping people into vans, shouldn’t it be possible to call the police on them?

I mean it should be, but good f.cking luck with that. People who complain about police brutality in the US have a tendency to die in weird circumstances, so it's not just a case of the complaint going nowhere.

The type of people being black-bagged are 'people who look like Black Lives Matter protestors'; it doesn't take much reading between the lines to realise that that's a group of people who don't have good experiences with calling the police in general (because they might arrest or shoot you).

One of the most pernicious effects of this is that there have already been cases of paramilitary militias attending protests,staging counter protests, harassing protestors, etc. Now there are federal officers behaving in the same way, victims of any actual militias can't fight back for fear of repercussions from the law enforcement system.

Spreading to other cities... Citing crime, Trump expands sending federal agents to cities over mayors' opposition

Police routinely hide their numbers and badges when covering protests in the UK as well. This isn't something new, or limited to the US.

That's slightly different from being sent out onto the streets without even a number or unit identification to cover up. They are basically out there with "POLICE" written on a post-it note and stuck to their chests.

Plus the vehicles they're using are literally just minivans they've rented from Enterprise.

Federal officers to leave downtown Portland
https://twitter.com/oregongovbrown/stat ... 18113?s=21

And Trump attempts to claim "mission accomplished"...

FlammableFlower wrote: ↑

Wed Jul 29, 2020 10:35 pm

And Trump attempts to claim "mission accomplished"...

That rings a depressing bell.