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Re: Railways

Post by Gfamily » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:26 am

Aitch wrote:
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A trivial question. Our new bridge (see previous posts) has four bridge plates - two oval, two rectangular. It also has a information 'plate':
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When did they start putting those on bridges?

And what is the point of putting a small sign 15' up on the side of a bridge where it can't be easily read?
Presumably they identified a problem where they couldn't get the details from a previous contractor. Attaching them to the structure seems like a reasonable approach.
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Re: Railways

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:35 am

I doubt it's for public use. Probably a contractual thing to give information to NR maintenance staff on when the bridge was painted.
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Re: Railways

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:36 am

Whether that information exists digitally or not is quite another matter entirely.
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Re: Railways

Post by plodder » Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:36 am

bagpuss wrote:
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But the fact that construction has started before HS2 even properly engaged on issues that were raised very early on - ie years ago - does suggest that something isn't working in the current process.
Evidence that they didn't properly engage please

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Post by El Pollo Diablo » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:03 am

Fwiw HS2's annual report admits that they haven't always been good neighbours in places where construction has started, and there's more work to do there
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Re: Railways

Post by bagpuss » Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:25 am

plodder wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:36 am
bagpuss wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:41 pm
But the fact that construction has started before HS2 even properly engaged on issues that were raised very early on - ie years ago - does suggest that something isn't working in the current process.
Evidence that they didn't properly engage please
Like I said, I haven't been keeping up so don't have the evidence and I admitted up front that I might not have everything completely right. I'm not invested in this discussion enough to spend significant time in tracking evidence down but if I come across it (and I'm certain it exists), I will return and share.

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Post by tom p » Mon Jul 18, 2022 3:20 pm

El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:35 am
I doubt it's for public use. Probably a contractual thing to give information to NR maintenance staff on when the bridge was painted.
And putting it 5 metres up will deter casual vandals from wrecking it for info purposes.

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Re: Railways

Post by TimW » Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:09 am

Shapps was glorious on BBC breakfast this morning. Obviously he doesn't read any newspapers or anything because he had no idea that Avanti have cut their Manchester - London service to 1 direct train per hour.

How's his job security looking?

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Post by Opti » Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:13 am

Wasn't Shapps saying only the other day that government had no place in the wage/conditions negotiations?
Today, apparently, the government is going to wade in and impose its chosen solution.
Time for a big fat one.

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Post by El Pollo Diablo » Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:19 am

Yeah, Shapps has been lying about that one right from the start. NR and the TOCs have their strings pulled by the DfT in this regard. For Shapps to claim he has no power to intervene or negotiate is just an outright lie.
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Post by headshot » Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:12 am

TimW wrote:
Fri Aug 19, 2022 9:09 am
Shapps was glorious on BBC breakfast this morning. Obviously he doesn't read any newspapers or anything because he had no idea that Avanti have cut their Manchester - London service to 1 direct train per hour.

How's his job security looking?
They've also closed bookings completely on their website. I can't book a train from Birmingham to anywhere using Avanti's website. Mental.

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Re: Railways

Post by bagpuss » Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:25 am

bagpuss wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 11:25 am
plodder wrote:
Mon Jul 18, 2022 10:36 am
bagpuss wrote:
Sat Jul 16, 2022 4:41 pm
But the fact that construction has started before HS2 even properly engaged on issues that were raised very early on - ie years ago - does suggest that something isn't working in the current process.
Evidence that they didn't properly engage please
Like I said, I haven't been keeping up so don't have the evidence and I admitted up front that I might not have everything completely right. I'm not invested in this discussion enough to spend significant time in tracking evidence down but if I come across it (and I'm certain it exists), I will return and share.
I've had more time recently and been hunting for it but can't for the life of me find the links and info I read before. I'm starting to believe I imagined the lot, in which case, I withdraw everything I said (I don't really believe I imagined it but it's a bit odd that I can't find any of the info, so maybe I did?!).

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Re: Railways

Post by TimW » Fri Aug 19, 2022 10:28 am

Part of this morning's Shapps interview here: https://twitter.com/BBCBreakfast/status ... 6129212416
(There's more though, will try and track it down.)

Fantastic combination of cluelessness and arrogance.

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Re: Railways

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:26 pm

No real general sense yet of how Trevelyan will be as Transport Secretary. Clearly she's mad, but hopefully her madness points in a useful direction.

More happiness though that Simon Clarke has f.cked off out of Treasury, and Rees-Mogg out of the Cabinet Office. They've both been blockers for progress on HS2, with Clarke in particular recently demanding an 11th hour removal of £10m, a figure plucked entirely out of the air, from the contract award for Birmingham Interchange, at risk of delaying the construction of the station. This now means that the station will have no solar power.
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Re: Railways

Post by IvanV » Thu Sep 08, 2022 3:07 pm

El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:26 pm
More happiness though that ... Rees-Mogg out of the Cabinet Office ...
Happiness for you, perhaps. At least the scope of what he could try and "make efficient" as Minister for Imaginary Opportunities and Government Efficiency was fairly limited. Now he covers business and energy.

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Re: Railways

Post by Bird on a Fire » Tue Sep 13, 2022 9:47 am

IvanV wrote:
Thu Sep 08, 2022 3:07 pm
El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Wed Sep 07, 2022 3:26 pm
More happiness though that ... Rees-Mogg out of the Cabinet Office ...
Happiness for you, perhaps. At least the scope of what he could try and "make efficient" as Minister for Imaginary Opportunities and Government Efficiency was fairly limited. Now he covers business and energy.
Business: full privatization of all railways and associated infrastructure.

Energy: all trains to be powered by coal.
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.

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