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Re: Cummings and Goings
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:14 pm
by Martin_B
Martin Y wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:34 am
tenchboy wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:46 am
Galton & Simpson left Tony Hancock and created Steptoe & Son; Clement & La Frenais left Bob & Terry (&Thelma) and created Porridge: Cummings & Caine...
So you're suggesting their future careers might be scrap or in prison?
Clement & Le Frenais also wrote "The Bank Job".
Not sure why I considered a film based on deceiving the authorities and trying to get away with large sums of money worth mentioning here...
Re: Cummings and Goings
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:36 pm
by FlammableFlower
Guardian wrote:Neil Tweedie, who was not found to have been responsible for any leak, said of Cummings and Cain in the Daily Mail that “fear was their tool”.
“The Vote Leave mob, drunk on their success in the referendum and the election, believed they were untouchable,” he wrote. He told how Cummings, who demanded utter loyalty from special advisers to other ministers, held egotistical “spad school” Zoom meetings delivering monologues while “sitting at the end of the cabinet room table, the union flag draped behind him”.
Between this lot and Trump, satirists just can't produce anything more ridiculous than what's already there.
Re: Cummings and Goings
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:10 pm
by snoozeofreason
I can't help thinking that the photo of Cummings leaving 10 Downing Street with a cardboard box is deliberately staged to make some sort of point. It's difficult to believe that, after 16 months in the job, he can really fit all his office paraphernalia into one small box (unless his desk is much tidier and minimalist than mine). And anyway, surely he could have got a minion to carry his stuff if he wanted to. The only problem is that I can't work out what point is being made, and by whom.
Re: Cummings and Goings
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:15 pm
by dyqik
snoozeofreason wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:10 pm
I can't help thinking that the photo of Cummings leaving 10 Downing Street with a cardboard box is deliberately staged to make some sort of point. It's difficult to believe that, after 16 months in the job, he can really fit all his office paraphernalia into one small box (unless his desk is much tidier and minimalist than mine). And anyway, surely he could have got a minion to carry his stuff if he wanted to. The only problem is that I can't work out what point is being made, and by whom.
It's a flounce, with a side order of "nothing from now on is my fault".
Re: Cummings and Goings
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:27 pm
by Aitch
snoozeofreason wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:10 pm
I can't help thinking that the photo of Cummings leaving 10 Downing Street with a cardboard box is deliberately staged to make some sort of point. It's difficult to believe that, after 16 months in the job, he can really fit all his office paraphernalia into one small box (unless his desk is much tidier and minimalist than mine). And anyway, surely he could have got a minion to carry his stuff if he wanted to. The only problem is that I can't work out what point is being made, and by whom.
The box is big enough for a couple of notepads and a laptop*. Probably all he needs.
* plus room for his government issue stapler, hole-punch etc and his coffee mug.
Re: Cummings and Goings
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:32 pm
by FlammableFlower
dyqik wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:15 pm
snoozeofreason wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:10 pm
I can't help thinking that the photo of Cummings leaving 10 Downing Street with a cardboard box is deliberately staged to make some sort of point. It's difficult to believe that, after 16 months in the job, he can really fit all his office paraphernalia into one small box (unless his desk is much tidier and minimalist than mine). And anyway, surely he could have got a minion to carry his stuff if he wanted to. The only problem is that I can't work out what point is being made, and by whom.
It's a flounce, with a side order of "nothing from now on is my fault".
That was my thought too. It's a very deliberate move to have an image on record in the media.
Re: Cummings and Goings
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:38 pm
by AMS
It's absolutely a flounce. Loads of people have pointed out that Downing Street has several exits, and he's picked the one where the press photographers hang around.
Re: Cummings and Goings
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:52 pm
by snoozeofreason
dyqik wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:15 pm
snoozeofreason wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:10 pm
I can't help thinking that the photo of Cummings leaving 10 Downing Street with a cardboard box is deliberately staged to make some sort of point. It's difficult to believe that, after 16 months in the job, he can really fit all his office paraphernalia into one small box (unless his desk is much tidier and minimalist than mine). And anyway, surely he could have got a minion to carry his stuff if he wanted to. The only problem is that I can't work out what point is being made, and by whom.
It's a flounce, with a side order of "nothing from now on is my fault".
You're probably right. He doesn't now how to flounce properly though. The cardboard box makes it look as if he's been summarily dismissed. I'd have ditched that. And broken wind through the letter box before I walked down the steps.
Re: Cummings and Goings
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:13 pm
by Martin Y
dyqik wrote: ↑Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:15 pm
It's a flounce, with a side order of "nothing from now on is my fault".
That makes perfect sense. Since Cummings himself performed the photo-op it must have been contrived by him to serve his own purpose, and I can well imagine he fancies himself as Brexit Britain's Bismarck and intends this as his "Dropping the pilot" moment. If it all turns to sh.t then it'll be Kaiser Boris's fault and if it's a triumph then he gets to play the victim as a prophet who was not recognised in his own land. Spoiler: it'll all turn to sh.t.
Re: Cummings and Goings
Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 6:25 pm
by AMS