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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Tessa K » Sun May 22, 2022 10:49 am

Little waster wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 10:21 am
jimbob wrote:
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So I see he's left Twitter in only the way he could... By whining about a backlash, stating that he's left, and continuing to tweet.
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He calls a woman ugly, people tell him he's out of order, he throws his toys out of the pram. Such a prince among men.

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by bjn » Sun May 22, 2022 11:59 am

Tessa K wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 10:49 am
Little waster wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 10:21 am
jimbob wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 6:12 am
So I see he's left Twitter in only the way he could... By whining about a backlash, stating that he's left, and continuing to tweet.
zOmG TeH LeFt-FaSciStS HaV CaNcElLeD HiM! :cry:
He calls a woman ugly, people tell him he's out of order, he throws his toys out of the pram. Such a prince among men.
He also dressed up his personal dislike of the woman's appearance to have some deep political meaning.

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Tessa K » Sun May 22, 2022 12:51 pm

bjn wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 11:59 am
Tessa K wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 10:49 am
Little waster wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 10:21 am


zOmG TeH LeFt-FaSciStS HaV CaNcElLeD HiM! :cry:
He calls a woman ugly, people tell him he's out of order, he throws his toys out of the pram. Such a prince among men.
He also dressed up his personal dislike of the woman's appearance to have some deep political meaning.
How dare anyone police his desire

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Stephanie » Sun May 22, 2022 1:08 pm

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by bjn » Sun May 22, 2022 5:02 pm

Tessa K wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 12:51 pm
bjn wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 11:59 am
Tessa K wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 10:49 am


He calls a woman ugly, people tell him he's out of order, he throws his toys out of the pram. Such a prince among men.
He also dressed up his personal dislike of the woman's appearance to have some deep political meaning.
How dare anyone police his desire
The man can fancy whatever adult ever he happens to find attractive. But the post in question was very much about policing other peoples desires.

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Tessa K » Sun May 22, 2022 5:18 pm

bjn wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 5:02 pm
Tessa K wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 12:51 pm
bjn wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 11:59 am


He also dressed up his personal dislike of the woman's appearance to have some deep political meaning.
How dare anyone police his desire
The man can fancy whatever adult ever he happens to find attractive. But the post in question was very much about policing other peoples desires.
Of course we all have preferences and there are people we find unattractive but why publicly pick on someone? Such a bully.

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sun May 22, 2022 5:25 pm

It's not bullying, it's being an alpha male, or something.

From what I've heard I'm quite happy with my beta status ;)
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Grumble » Sun May 22, 2022 6:23 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 5:25 pm
It's not bullying, it's being an alpha male, or something.

From what I've heard I'm quite happy with my beta status ;)
It’s not like alpha male actually has a meaning, except if someone thinks they are one it maps very well onto whether they’re a massive bellend or not.
A bit churlish

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Tessa K » Sun May 22, 2022 6:29 pm

Grumble wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 6:23 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 5:25 pm
It's not bullying, it's being an alpha male, or something.

From what I've heard I'm quite happy with my beta status ;)
It’s not like alpha male actually has a meaning, except if someone thinks they are one it maps very well onto whether they’re a massive bellend or not.
Anyone who is concerned about appearing to be an alpha, isn't. Have you seen the Frans de Waal TED talk about what being an alpha really means? Well worth watching

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by bjn » Sun May 22, 2022 6:39 pm

Tessa K wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 5:18 pm
bjn wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 5:02 pm
Tessa K wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 12:51 pm


How dare anyone police his desire
The man can fancy whatever adult ever he happens to find attractive. But the post in question was very much about policing other peoples desires.
Of course we all have preferences and there are people we find unattractive but why publicly pick on someone? Such a bully.
Because he’s a massive bellend?

Also incase I wasn’t clear, Peterson was the one policing other people in his post, while maintaining the stance of a victim.

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by jimbob » Sun May 22, 2022 8:27 pm

Tessa K wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 6:29 pm
Grumble wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 6:23 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 5:25 pm
It's not bullying, it's being an alpha male, or something.

From what I've heard I'm quite happy with my beta status ;)
It’s not like alpha male actually has a meaning, except if someone thinks they are one it maps very well onto whether they’re a massive bellend or not.
Anyone who is concerned about appearing to be an alpha, isn't. Have you seen the Frans de Waal TED talk about what being an alpha really means? Well worth watching
Seconded.

And self proclaimed Alpha males are both massive bellends and probably suspect that they might not be so superior.
Have you considered stupidity as an explanation

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Tessa K » Sun May 22, 2022 8:59 pm

jimbob wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 8:27 pm
Tessa K wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 6:29 pm
Grumble wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 6:23 pm


It’s not like alpha male actually has a meaning, except if someone thinks they are one it maps very well onto whether they’re a massive bellend or not.
Anyone who is concerned about appearing to be an alpha, isn't. Have you seen the Frans de Waal TED talk about what being an alpha really means? Well worth watching
Seconded.

And self proclaimed Alpha males are both massive bellends and probably suspect that they might not be so superior.
Isn't part of the problem that their bellends are perhaps not as massive as they might wish?

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by JQH » Sun May 22, 2022 9:01 pm

Wouldn't surprise me. And possibly they can't afford a big car to overcompensate with.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Grumble » Mon May 23, 2022 6:45 am

Tessa K wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 6:29 pm
Grumble wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 6:23 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sun May 22, 2022 5:25 pm
It's not bullying, it's being an alpha male, or something.

From what I've heard I'm quite happy with my beta status ;)
It’s not like alpha male actually has a meaning, except if someone thinks they are one it maps very well onto whether they’re a massive bellend or not.
Anyone who is concerned about appearing to be an alpha, isn't. Have you seen the Frans de Waal TED talk about what being an alpha really means? Well worth watching
It was worth watching, quite superficial but you could tell there was a lot behind it. I take it back about not having a meaning, but it doesn’t have the same meaning most people who use the term mean by it.
A bit churlish

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by bob sterman » Mon May 23, 2022 7:21 am

Grumble wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 6:45 am
It was worth watching, quite superficial but you could tell there was a lot behind it. I take it back about not having a meaning, but it doesn’t have the same meaning most people who use the term mean by it.
It has a clear meaning in various polygynous non-human species that have highly structured social/mating systems - e.g. in elephant seals, or particularly in lekking species such as sage grouse or some deer. The alpha in a given social group is the one that mates with the most females (pretty much by definition).

In some species alpha status does depend on physical dominance and violence (e.g. elephant seals) but in others it depends on doing stuff like strutting around endlessly displaying impressive plumage and making noises.

Modern Western human social systems are not really structured in such a way (in clear groups) to make the concept of an "alpha" meaningful - every Peterson fan is probably a wannabe "alpha" in his own bedroom.

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Tessa K » Mon May 23, 2022 7:48 am

bob sterman wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 7:21 am
Grumble wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 6:45 am
It was worth watching, quite superficial but you could tell there was a lot behind it. I take it back about not having a meaning, but it doesn’t have the same meaning most people who use the term mean by it.
It has a clear meaning in various polygynous non-human species that have highly structured social/mating systems - e.g. in elephant seals, or particularly in lekking species such as sage grouse or some deer. The alpha in a given social group is the one that mates with the most females (pretty much by definition).

In some species alpha status does depend on physical dominance and violence (e.g. elephant seals) but in others it depends on doing stuff like strutting around endlessly displaying impressive plumage and making noises.

Modern Western human social systems are not really structured in such a way (in clear groups) to make the concept of an "alpha" meaningful - every Peterson fan is probably a wannabe "alpha" in his own bedroom.
Alpha males do a lot of peacekeeping in social animal groups as well as getting the pick of the females. It's the strutting, shagging part that JP and his boys aspire to rather than the responsibility part. They also ignore the fact that females are pretty good at sneaking off to mate with other males. There is very little monogamy in nature.

Human alphas are often men who are in strong social positions because of inherited wealth and privilege, which says nothing about their personal qualities.

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Grumble » Mon May 23, 2022 7:50 am

bob sterman wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 7:21 am
Grumble wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 6:45 am
It was worth watching, quite superficial but you could tell there was a lot behind it. I take it back about not having a meaning, but it doesn’t have the same meaning most people who use the term mean by it.
It has a clear meaning in various polygynous non-human species that have highly structured social/mating systems - e.g. in elephant seals, or particularly in lekking species such as sage grouse or some deer. The alpha in a given social group is the one that mates with the most females (pretty much by definition).

In some species alpha status does depend on physical dominance and violence (e.g. elephant seals) but in others it depends on doing stuff like strutting around endlessly displaying impressive plumage and making noises.

Modern Western human social systems are not really structured in such a way (in clear groups) to make the concept of an "alpha" meaningful - every Peterson fan is probably a wannabe "alpha" in his own bedroom.
Exactly, in human society mating with lots of females is problematic - although maybe by that definition Boris really is an alpha? :shock:
A bit churlish

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Little waster » Mon May 23, 2022 8:11 am

Grumble wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 7:50 am
bob sterman wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 7:21 am
Grumble wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 6:45 am
It was worth watching, quite superficial but you could tell there was a lot behind it. I take it back about not having a meaning, but it doesn’t have the same meaning most people who use the term mean by it.
It has a clear meaning in various polygynous non-human species that have highly structured social/mating systems - e.g. in elephant seals, or particularly in lekking species such as sage grouse or some deer. The alpha in a given social group is the one that mates with the most females (pretty much by definition).

In some species alpha status does depend on physical dominance and violence (e.g. elephant seals) but in others it depends on doing stuff like strutting around endlessly displaying impressive plumage and making noises.

Modern Western human social systems are not really structured in such a way (in clear groups) to make the concept of an "alpha" meaningful - every Peterson fan is probably a wannabe "alpha" in his own bedroom.
Exactly, in human society mating with lots of females is problematic - although maybe by that definition Boris really is an alpha Charlie Uniform November Tango? :shock:
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Tessa K » Mon May 23, 2022 10:07 am

Grumble wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 7:50 am
bob sterman wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 7:21 am
Grumble wrote:
Mon May 23, 2022 6:45 am
It was worth watching, quite superficial but you could tell there was a lot behind it. I take it back about not having a meaning, but it doesn’t have the same meaning most people who use the term mean by it.
It has a clear meaning in various polygynous non-human species that have highly structured social/mating systems - e.g. in elephant seals, or particularly in lekking species such as sage grouse or some deer. The alpha in a given social group is the one that mates with the most females (pretty much by definition).

In some species alpha status does depend on physical dominance and violence (e.g. elephant seals) but in others it depends on doing stuff like strutting around endlessly displaying impressive plumage and making noises.

Modern Western human social systems are not really structured in such a way (in clear groups) to make the concept of an "alpha" meaningful - every Peterson fan is probably a wannabe "alpha" in his own bedroom.
Exactly, in human society mating with lots of females is problematic - although maybe by that definition Boris really is an alpha? :shock:
It's not so much mating that's the problem, it's having kids and then not parenting them. As humans can control conception, having multiple partners isn't a problem as long as there's no deception. JP type alpgas and wannabes want the sex without the responsibility.

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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Rich Scopie » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:08 pm

It first was a rumour dismissed as a lie, but then came the evidence none could deny:
a double page spread in the Sunday Express — the Russians are running the DHSS!

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Post by basementer » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:18 pm

I get a 404 error from that link.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Gfamily » Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:23 pm

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I get a 404 error from that link.
You have to restore the missing 'a' s where the URL includes the word w.nkers.
It's a profanity filter thing...
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Rich Scopie » Fri Jun 17, 2022 3:08 pm

Gfamily wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:23 pm
basementer wrote:
Fri Jun 17, 2022 2:18 pm
I get a 404 error from that link.
You have to restore the missing 'a' s where the URL includes the word w.nkers.
It's a profanity filter thing...
https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/news/art ... 0617222300?
Whoops. Sorry.
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by nekomatic » Fri Jun 17, 2022 6:47 pm

Rich Scopie wrote:
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The Daily Mash nails it.
Replace the ‘a’s with %61 8-)
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Re: Jordan Peterson

Post by Herainestold » Sun Jun 19, 2022 9:00 pm

Too bad its not Jordan headed for Guantanamao and not Julian.
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