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Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:35 pm
by Bird on a Fire
Sciolus wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:52 pm
border_reiver wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 7:49 pm
border_reiver wrote: ↑Fri Dec 11, 2020 11:23 pm
My 88 yr old mother has been given an appointment for next Friday. From the GP surgery. I think it's 'assuming we receive our expected allocation' so we'll see what actually happens.
Well she got it yesterday. Got a message on Friday to say the surgery was getting supplies earlier than expected so appointment changed to Tuesday.
She hasn't grown another head or started affecting next door's TV so all well for now. Her practice is a huge multi-surgery group so were able to get enough patients together and she said it was very efficient.
She also expressed horror at the woman BBC news spoke to who said she didn't need it because God would protect her from everything. As mum said "God wasn't protecting all those poor people who have died, was he" She's not wrong.
They were obviously godless heathens who deserved to die.
Also, insert "I sent you two lifeboats and a helicopter" joke here.
I always liked that joke. I first heard it at church, aged about 10.
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:44 am
by Millennie Al
shpalman wrote: ↑Wed Dec 16, 2020 8:03 am
However it does bother me that
29 NHSE&I is currently planning on the assumption that up to 25 million people could be vaccinated against COVID-19 in England throughout 2021 provided sufficient doses of vaccine are available.
Only 25 million? That wouldn't even be enough for everyone over 40.
Since that's less than half the population, even with a vaccine that is 100% effective, it would not be sufficient alone to prevent the number of cases of COVID-19 growing, so we'll be still social distancing in a year's time (or our leaders will have let things get so bad that a large proportion of those who have not been vaccinated are immune due to having caught the disease and survived it).
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:06 am
by PeteB
Yes, looking at the
priority groups I think that was somewhere around half the population, but would include groups which made up 99% of the deaths so far - but not taking account of Long Covid / organ damage etc.
Interesting - from "How to vaccinate the world"
Care Homes < 0.5 mill in care homes, 36% deaths so far, (so poss vaccinating < 1% popln, preventing > 1/3 deaths)
All >80s (not just high risk - excl care homes) - 3 mill, 30% deaths so far
Healthcare workers 2 mill, not huge number of deaths but need vaccinating to care for others
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:53 am
by shpalman
PeteB wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:06 am
Yes, looking at the
priority groups I think that was somewhere around half the population, but would include groups which made up 99% of the deaths so far - but not taking account of Long Covid / organ damage etc.
Interesting - from "How to vaccinate the world"
Care Homes < 0.5 mill in care homes, 36% deaths so far, (so poss vaccinating < 1% popln, preventing > 1/3 deaths)
All >80s (not just high risk - excl care homes) - 3 mill, 30% deaths so far
Healthcare workers 2 mill, not huge number of deaths but need vaccinating to care for others
I wonder when the government last clicked refresh on the order status of those
10 million 5 million more doses which were supposed to arrive "by the end of the year".
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:35 pm
by Herainestold
shpalman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:53 am
I wonder when the government last clicked refresh on the order status of those
10 million 5 million more doses which were supposed to arrive "by the end of the year".
Are you implying that our government is incompetent?
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:39 pm
by jdc
Herainestold wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:35 pm
shpalman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:53 am
I wonder when the government last clicked refresh on the order status of those
10 million 5 million more doses which were supposed to arrive "by the end of the year".
Are you implying that our government is incompetent?
It's possible they've had an email update on the order status but it's in the spam folder. Pretty sure that was their excuse for not joining the EU PPE procurement programme.
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 7:58 am
by shpalman
Most Lincolnshire NHS staff will not receive the COVID-19 vaccine until the end of March 2021, according to hospital bosses.
Some 1,200 high risk staff at United Lincolnshire Hospitals NHS Trust should receive the vaccine by the middle of January 2021, with the remaining 6,800 staff due by the end of March.
...
Independent South Holland Councillor Christopher Brewis said he finds it “mind-boggling” that data cannot be revealed about how many vaccines have been given locally.
He suspected the majority of the population would not receive it until March 2022.
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 8:46 am
by FredM
Just in case anyone’s getting
too optimistic.
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:29 am
by jimbob
jdc wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 6:39 pm
Herainestold wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 3:35 pm
shpalman wrote: ↑Thu Dec 17, 2020 9:53 am
I wonder when the government last clicked refresh on the order status of those
10 million 5 million more doses which were supposed to arrive "by the end of the year".
Are you implying that our government is incompetent?
It's possible they've had an email update on the order status but it's in the spam folder. Pretty sure that was their excuse for not joining the EU PPE procurement programme.
It was... given after they had publicly rebuffed the approach, so not only incompetent but also psychic.
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 9:50 am
by Lew Dolby
But, we do flu jabs every year. Shirley there's already s/w that can do this recording with a couple of tweaks - second jab, etc ???
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Fri Dec 18, 2020 6:12 pm
by shpalman
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:09 am
by shpalman
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 8:47 am
by Vertigowooyay
So happy that Rupert Murdoch, US citizen, tax dodger and man whose papers have demonized doctors, nurses and the NHS, just received the vaccine via the NHS.
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:14 am
by lpm
That's good. I'd hate seeing him to die of it.
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 9:15 am
by shpalman
They gave him the mind-control chip version, though, right?
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:52 pm
by monkey
Johnson said that 350,000 had been vaccinated in his press conference today.
I assume this means doses administered, because no one would be getting the 2nd one yet would they?
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:07 pm
by lpm
My brother's been vaccinated.
The China one. (He's overseas).
He hasn't started talking Herainestold bollocks yet but I'm keeping a close eye on it.
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:01 am
by Millennie Al
monkey wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:52 pm
Johnson said that 350,000 had been vaccinated in his press conference today.
I assume this means doses administered, because no one would be getting the 2nd one yet would they?
You can be pretty much guaranteed that any figures are for number of injections given and not number of patients as that makes the figures look better.
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:23 am
by Herainestold
lpm wrote: ↑Sun Dec 20, 2020 7:07 pm
My brother's been vaccinated.
The China one. (He's overseas).
He hasn't started talking Herainestold bollocks yet but I'm keeping a close eye on it.
He's in China or he got a Chinese vax? Or both?
Do you know which particular vaccine he got?
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 12:57 pm
by PeteB
yeah, based on new variant wondering if it is worth taking a controlled risk on vaccines, start rolling them out earlier, before full certification if they basically look ok - start rolling out Oxford / Astra Zeneca
Don't think we are going to be able to control new variant with lockdowns / tiers
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 1:04 pm
by shpalman
Millennie Al wrote: ↑Mon Dec 21, 2020 2:01 am
monkey wrote: ↑Sat Dec 19, 2020 7:52 pm
Johnson said that 350,000 had been vaccinated in his press conference today.
I assume this means doses administered, because no one would be getting the 2nd one yet would they?
You can be pretty much guaranteed that any figures are for number of injections given and not number of patients as that makes the figures look better.
It hasn't been three weeks since they started so they can't possibly be giving the second doses yet.
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 5:20 pm
by shpalman
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:26 pm
by shpalman
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:41 pm
by mediocrity511
So we have 800,000 doses delivered so far and have used over half of them on first doses. Better hope there's no delays getting hold of the next batch...
Re: Vaccine rollout in the UK
Posted: Mon Dec 21, 2020 6:45 pm
by shpalman
Are the second doses for the ~140,000 who had the first dose two weeks ago already in the UK? We'll need them next week. Or is the idea to stop doing new people?
