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Re: Another tall building fire

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:51 pm
by JQH
One of the teachers at my last job used to do that demo.

Re: Another tall building fire

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2019 9:39 pm
by P.J. Denyer
shpalman wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 6:57 pm
OneOffDave wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:13 pm
Gfamily wrote:
Fri Nov 22, 2019 11:05 am
There's a good new-ish podcast series by Tim Harford called Cautionary Tales in which the first episode is about how incidents can escalate because the wrong things are focused on at the wrong times and people assume things are how they should be rather than how they are.
There's CCTV of a deliberately set fire in an off licence and it's fascinating to watch the reaction of people as they come in and out of the shop just looking at the fire as if there's always a display on fire in that corner of the shop. The quality is a bit poor but it's interesting viewing.
Nice screensaver!
Is it sad that I haven't followed the link but I know exactly what it is?

Re: Another tall building fire

Posted: Thu Nov 28, 2019 12:35 pm
by kerrya1
rockdoctor wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:46 pm
I learned a useful thing about house fires when I was a teenager. I was watching telly, mum was heating up fat to fry chips. The phone went and she went out to the hall to answer it (back in the days of wired landlines). Unfortunately she got caught up in a good natter and forgot the chip pan. Eventually I opened the door to the kitchen and found it filled with utterly opaque white gaseous fat smoke. I plunged in and turned off the gas stove and was opening windows when dad ran in. He saw how much smoke was still coming off the pan and decided to carry it outside.
As he stepped outside the back door it erupted in flames so he flung it away from him. Some boiling fat splashed on him as a result and he had to go to hospital for the burns.
Almost exactly the same thing happened to my father-in-law, he still has scars on his arms. My parents chip pan fire resulted in melting polystyrene ceiling tiles which dripped on my Dad's bald head, which is still scarred.

Growing up in Scotland I think everyone I knew had a chip pan fire at some point. As a result we only have oven chips and I don't deep fry anything.

Re: Another tall building fire

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 6:21 pm
by shpalman

Re: Another tall building fire

Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2021 8:50 pm
by Boustrophedon
JQH wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 11:22 pm
rockdoctor wrote:
Sat Nov 23, 2019 5:46 pm
I learned a useful thing about house fires when I was a teenager. I was watching telly, mum was heating up fat to fry chips. The phone went and she went out to the hall to answer it (back in the days of wired landlines). Unfortunately she got caught up in a good natter and forgot the chip pan. Eventually I opened the door to the kitchen and found it filled with utterly opaque white gaseous fat smoke. I plunged in and turned off the gas stove and was opening windows when dad ran in. He saw how much smoke was still coming off the pan and decided to carry it outside.
As he stepped outside the back door it erupted in flames so he flung it away from him. Some boiling fat splashed on him as a result and he had to go to hospital for the burns.
I was pretty astonished how much energy the exploding fat held. So I am very cautious around hot flammable liquids and we microwave our chips now (like everyone else)
At least he didn't chuck water on it ...
There was a notorious fire, many years ago at an oil refinery in their wax slabbing plant: The wax was piped in molten, cast in molds, packaged in poly bags in cardboard boxes and stacked in the warehouse. The whole lot including the warehouse went up in flames.
The management strenuously argued that it was an oil fire and foam was needed. The fire brigade argued back, that wax was solid, foam was expensive and so used water. Plant management retreated.
The result was as to be expected, perhaps worse as the water also floated the burning melted wax and cardboard out of the warehouse to where the fire brigade were parked up. The fire brigade retreated.
In the morning half the site was impassible as it was coated in wax, all the services ran in covered trenches which were now filled with solid wax and all the drains were blocked so there was flooding.
Cleanup cost millions.

Re: Another tall building fire

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 9:51 am
by shpalman

Re: Another tall building fire

Posted: Mon Aug 30, 2021 12:30 pm
by JQH
They said the flames spread through the cladding on the façade, which was supposed to have been fire resistant, Corriere della Sera reported.