Brexit Consequences

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:25 pm

Pishwish wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:14 pm
Ah, so according to Sheldrake Intel was only going to employ 10-20 people at one of its European plants because an entirely different company employs 10 people at a particular location in its facility.

t's almost as if his reputation for arguing in bad -faith is well deserved.
Yes, I'm assuming Intel can achieve comparable efficiency when it builds a new plant

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by Pishwish » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:41 pm

It's like trying to explain to a 6-year-old that people other than pilots work at the airport.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:47 pm

Pishwish wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:41 pm
It's like trying to explain to a 6-year-old that people other than pilots work at the airport.
It's like explaining to a petulant teenager that their anecdote about one company isn't important in the context of years of economic data for whole countries.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:13 pm

"slightly behind Luxembourg"

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:17 pm

plodder wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:13 pm
"slightly behind Luxembourg"
And ahead of every other European country.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:18 pm

Grocery shortages "most severe in the East Midlands" - ONS. f.cking lol.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -ons-finds

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:18 pm

sheldrake wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:17 pm
plodder wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:13 pm
"slightly behind Luxembourg"
And ahead of every other European country.
On the very reliable metric where we're behind Luxembourg. Lol.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:19 pm

Nothing to do with Brexit, that.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:20 pm

I mean, I'm sure it's possible to find economic metrics showing Bradford light years ahead of New York, or Neasden ahead of Kuala Lumpur.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:24 pm

Go on then.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by Lew Dolby » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:34 pm

Scuse my ignorance in things economic: but does this inward investment include foreigners (individuals or companies) buying british companies ?

If so, to my way of thinking, that can have downsides.
WOULD CUSTOMERS PLEASE REFRAIN FROM SITTING ON THE COUNTER BY THE BACON SLICER - AS WE'RE GETTING A LITTLE BEHIND IN OUR ORDERS.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:34 pm

sheldrake wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:19 pm
Nothing to do with Brexit, that.
"Nothing" now, is it?

Ok.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:36 pm

Lew Dolby wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:34 pm
Scuse my ignorance in things economic: but does this inward investment include foreigners (individuals or companies) buying british companies ?

If so, to my way of thinking, that can have downsides.
It does include that, but generally speaking it's worse if people don't think your companies are worth buying than if they do.
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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:37 pm

plodder wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:34 pm
sheldrake wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:19 pm
Nothing to do with Brexit, that.
"Nothing" now, is it?

Ok.
You've got data to find on Neasden and Kuala Lumpa, mate.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by Bird on a Fire » Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:55 pm

Lew Dolby wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:34 pm
Scuse my ignorance in things economic: but does this inward investment include foreigners (individuals or companies) buying british companies ?

If so, to my way of thinking, that can have downsides.
British companies for British capitalists!
We have the right to a clean, healthy, sustainable environment.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:26 pm

sheldrake wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:37 pm
plodder wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:34 pm
sheldrake wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:19 pm
Nothing to do with Brexit, that.
"Nothing" now, is it?

Ok.
You've got data to find on Neasden and Kuala Lumpa, mate.
Historic window tax receipts from Neasden dwarf that of Kuala Lumpa. This is because Neasden has had far greater rates of development for at least 500 years, due to its unparalleled rates of inward investment. This is why Neasden District Council Leader Barry Chump should be re-elected for a sixth consecutive term.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:28 pm

Oh, sorry, what was that? Kuala Lumpur wasn't part of Medieval Europe?

Oh, OK, now someone else has provided some empirical data I've changed my mind, because although I also based my initial argument on data I'm also very intelligent.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:29 pm

But Barry Chump should be re-elected for other reasons. Give me a minute whilst I throw something together.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:43 pm

plodder wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:26 pm


Historic window tax receipts from Neasden dwarf that of Kuala Lumpa.
What's your data source? You can't just make things up. You need to do some work, like me.

These things you go running off with in your head aren't real you see.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:51 pm

sheldrake wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:43 pm
plodder wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:26 pm


Historic window tax receipts from Neasden dwarf that of Kuala Lumpa.
What's your data source? You can't just make things up. You need to do some work, like me.

These things you go running off with in your head aren't real you see.
I'm afraid the records have not survived.

https://eastmeonhistory.org.uk/wp-conte ... ow-Tax.pdf

I have therefore changed my mind. This is because I am more intelligent.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:03 pm

plodder wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:51 pm


I have therefore changed my mind. This is because I am more intelligent.
Pull the other one. You never change your mind.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:21 pm

Venture Capital investment in 2020, by country

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https://sifted.eu/articles/uk-record-te ... ment-2020/

Bestest in Europe.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:33 pm

figures compiled by Tech Nation, a breathless UK organisation for UK tech bros. No source data but lots and lots of what appears to be cocaine.

https://technation.io

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by sheldrake » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:42 pm

plodder wrote:
Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:33 pm
figures compiled by Tech Nation, a breathless UK organisation for UK tech bros. No source data but lots and lots of what appears to be cocaine.

https://technation.io
It's government funded and has been for a decade you silly man. These cocaine fantasies you have about the tech world are way more exciting than the real thing.

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Re: Brexit Consequences

Post by plodder » Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:51 pm

obfuscated government source bigs up the UK as a hub for investment? That's somehow more credible?

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