The future of the US Republican party

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Millennie Al » Wed Mar 09, 2022 2:27 am

Gfamily wrote:
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Their "Trump: Putin is smart" campaign ad is brutal - but probably not enough .
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/ ... a2628885f3
From that article:
Sarah Longwell, the group’s executive director, said in a news release. “It’s unconscionable that a former U.S. president would call a tyrant like Putin ‘smart’ as he attacks innocent people.”
She should learn what the word "smart" means. It does not reflect how nice someone is. It's perfectly possible to commit any atrocity while being smart if it gets you what you want and you don't care about the effects on others.

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Al Capone Junior » Thu Mar 10, 2022 12:47 am

Vertigowooyay wrote:
Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:03 am
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Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:38 am
McConnell says he'll "absolutely" support Trump if he's 2024 GOP presidential nominee
https://www.axios.com/mcconnell-trump-2 ... ab82b.html
McConnell would "absolutely" support Son Of Sam if he's 2024 GOP Presidential nominee, because Mitch McConnell has no spine, soul, ethics or morals.
Mitch "captain misery" McConnell would enthusiastically support Hitler with Satan as his running mate and Stalin and Mao as secretaries of defense and state. And still claim to have the self-evident moral high ground.

Oh, that's right, reasonable ppl don't do things like that. Only the unstable a..holes that mitch and the NRA make sure have continued access to assault rifles and handguns.

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Stranger Mouse » Sat Apr 02, 2022 8:12 pm

Colbert gives some employee feedback on CBS hiring Mick Mulvaney

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by dyqik » Mon Apr 04, 2022 5:42 pm

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed May 18, 2022 1:18 pm

The future of the Republicans does not apparently include Madison Cawthorn

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... s-congress
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by dyqik » Wed May 18, 2022 1:59 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 1:18 pm
The future of the Republicans does not apparently include Madison Cawthorn

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... s-congress
But may include Dr Oz. For maximum grifting.

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Allo V Psycho » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:16 am

Very interesting article in the Atlantic, which describes a newsletter by Michael Podhorzer. Sadly the original does not seem to be on line.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/ar ... er/661377/

I've modified the Atlantic text in a couple of places to improve my own understanding.
PODHORZER DEFINES MODERN red and blue America as the states in which each party has usually held unified control of the governorship and state legislature in recent years
There are 25 red states, 17 blue states, and 11 purple states, where state-government control has typically been divided.
[blue states] contribute 48 percent and the red …35 percent [of GDP]
The gross domestic product per person and the median household income are now both more than 25 percent greater in the blue section than in the red, according to Podhorzer’s calculations. The share of kids in poverty is more than 20 percent lower in the blue section than red, and the share of working households with incomes below the poverty line is nearly 40 percent lower. Health outcomes are diverging too. Gun deaths are almost twice as high per capita in the red places as in the blue, as is the maternal mortality rate. The COVID vaccination rate is about 20 percent higher in the blue section, and the per capita COVID death rate is about 20 percent higher in the red. Life expectancy is nearly three years greater in the blue (80.1 years) than the red (77.4) states. (On most of these measures, the purple states, fittingly, fall somewhere in between.)

Per capita spending on elementary and secondary education is almost 50 percent higher in the blue states compared with red. All of the blue states have expanded access to Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act, while about 60 percent of the total red-nation population lives in states that have refused to do so. All of the blue states have set a minimum wage higher than the federal level of $7.25, while only about one-third of the red-state residents live in places that have done so. [Blue states] have a much higher share of unionized workers than the [red states]. No state in the blue section has a law on the books banning abortion before fetal viability, while almost all of the red states are poised to restrict abortion rights if the Republican-appointed Supreme Court majority, as expected, overturns Roe v. Wade. Almost all of the red states have also passed “stand your ground” laws backed by the National Rifle Association, which provide a legal defense for those who use weapons against a perceived threat, while none of the blue states have done so.


It points out that in the 20th C, red and blue states came closer together by these metrics. Now they are moving apart again . The 'again' refers to the fact that the 'red' and 'blue' states correspond well with slave owning and non-slave owning states at the founding of the US. These only managed to come together by an uneasy compromise. At first, they converged, and were most focused on internal matters. Then the red states started attempting to impose their views on the blue states, leading to the Civil War.
The flurry of socially conservative laws that red states have passed since 2021, on issues such as abortion; classroom discussions of race, gender, and sexual orientation; and LGBTQ rights, is widening this split. No Democratic-controlled state has passed any of those measures.
… the growing separation means that after the period of fading distinctions, bedrock differences dating back to the country’s founding are resurfacing. And one crucial element of that …is the return of … “one-party rule” in the red nation.

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by TopBadger » Sun Jun 26, 2022 9:28 am

So basically, states that vote for regressive policies end up regressing on multiple measures... unfathomable, isn't it?
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Post by basementer » Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:59 pm

There are 25 red states, 17 blue states, and 11 purple states, where state-government control has typically been divided.
That doesn't add up to fifty. Is the discrepancy explained elsewhere in the article?
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by dyqik » Sun Jun 26, 2022 6:44 pm

basementer wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:59 pm
There are 25 red states, 17 blue states, and 11 purple states, where state-government control has typically been divided.
That doesn't add up to fifty. Is the discrepancy explained elsewhere in the article?
It also doesn't account for places like Massachusetts, with a veto proof D majority in both chambers of the state house, and a R governor who just signed one of the more aggressive pro-abortion executive orders, preventing any cooperation with abortion prosecutions in other states.

The next governor will be the D attorney general of MA, as even before the primary, she's polling at >50% statewide, with another D in second place.

But technically we have split government.

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Little waster » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:22 pm

basementer wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:59 pm
There are 25 red states, 17 blue states, and 11 purple states, where state-government control has typically been divided.
That doesn't add up to fifty. Is the discrepancy explained elsewhere in the article?
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by monkey » Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:31 pm

Little waster wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 7:22 pm
basementer wrote:
Sun Jun 26, 2022 5:59 pm
There are 25 red states, 17 blue states, and 11 purple states, where state-government control has typically been divided.
That doesn't add up to fifty. Is the discrepancy explained elsewhere in the article?
53.

50 states + Puerto Rico, DC and Guam?
The article says 8 purple states. Think someone must've done a typo.

No one cares what the territories or DC think.

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Stranger Mouse » Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:01 pm

Something which you may classify as light relief or a horror movie or both.

You may actually want to vote for Liz Cheney after this which I think is the point. I know.

https://twitter.com/accountablegop/stat ... 3WrX02VSSQ
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by WFJ » Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:23 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:01 pm
Something which you may classify as light relief or a horror movie or both.

You may actually want to vote for Liz Cheney after this which I think is the point. I know.

https://twitter.com/accountablegop/stat ... 3WrX02VSSQ
I want to hear more from the guy warning us about what all the major internets are up to.

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Stranger Mouse » Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:37 pm

WFJ wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:23 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:01 pm
Something which you may classify as light relief or a horror movie or both.

You may actually want to vote for Liz Cheney after this which I think is the point. I know.

https://twitter.com/accountablegop/stat ... 3WrX02VSSQ
I want to hear more from the guy warning us about what all the major internets are up to.
He must know all the necessary hashtags
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Al Capone Junior » Sun Jul 03, 2022 4:32 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 1:18 pm
The future of the Republicans does not apparently include Madison Cawthorn

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... s-congress
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by JQH » Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:06 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:01 pm
Something which you may classify as light relief or a horror movie or both.

You may actually want to vote for Liz Cheney after this which I think is the point. I know.

https://twitter.com/accountablegop/stat ... 3WrX02VSSQ

The scary thing is, they make Liz Cheney look like a moderate.
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Al Capone Junior » Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:40 pm

JQH wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:06 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:01 pm
Something which you may classify as light relief or a horror movie or both.

You may actually want to vote for Liz Cheney after this which I think is the point. I know.

https://twitter.com/accountablegop/stat ... 3WrX02VSSQ

The scary thing is, they make Liz Cheney look like a moderate.
It is disturbing that I'm actually a fan of Liz at this point. And Mit.

Humorously, during the 2nd Obama election, there was an annoying Mormon guy in my unit in the army that claimed he was best buddies with Mit. We got some Obama rainbow bumper stickers and put them on his car. :shock:

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:42 pm

Al Capone Junior wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 12:40 pm
JQH wrote:
Sun Jul 03, 2022 7:06 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Fri Jul 01, 2022 3:01 pm
Something which you may classify as light relief or a horror movie or both.

You may actually want to vote for Liz Cheney after this which I think is the point. I know.

https://twitter.com/accountablegop/stat ... 3WrX02VSSQ

The scary thing is, they make Liz Cheney look like a moderate.
It is disturbing that I'm actually a fan of Liz at this point. And Mit.

Humorously, during the 2nd Obama election, there was an annoying Mormon guy in my unit in the army that claimed he was best buddies with Mit. We got some Obama rainbow bumper stickers and put them on his car. :shock:
What about this woman who talks about shooting her grandkids to save them?

https://twitter.com/mollyjongfast/statu ... xWzPub0rFg
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Boustrophedon » Wed Jul 06, 2022 8:57 pm

Should we merge this with the What's next for Boris thread, they read the same.
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Al Capone Junior » Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:52 am


What about this woman who talks about shooting her grandkids to save them?

https://twitter.com/mollyjongfast/statu ... xWzPub0rFg
She's not already elected?

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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Little waster » Fri Jul 08, 2022 2:24 am

Al Capone Junior wrote:
Fri Jul 08, 2022 12:52 am

What about this woman who talks about shooting her grandkids to save them?

https://twitter.com/mollyjongfast/statu ... xWzPub0rFg
She's not already elected?
Standing unopposed AFAIK :shock:
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Stranger Mouse » Fri Jul 29, 2022 5:48 pm

Possibly the most excoriating Onion article I have ever read and the most brilliant

https://www.theonion.com/republicans-ex ... 1849345165
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by Gfamily » Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:50 pm

Don't know about the future, but the current GOP seems intent on reducing your expectations.

https://twitter.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/15 ... 1570096128

The 50 people involved were flown from Florida to Martha's Vineyard by the GOP Governor
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Re: The future of the US Republican party

Post by dyqik » Fri Sep 16, 2022 9:00 pm

Gfamily wrote:
Fri Sep 16, 2022 7:50 pm
Don't know about the future, but the current GOP seems intent on reducing your expectations.

https://twitter.com/Sky_Lee_1/status/15 ... 1570096128

The 50 people involved were flown from Florida to Martha's Vineyard by the GOP Governor
Reports here are that they were flown from Texas to MV, using Florida taxpayers money.

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