Re: The future of the US Republican party
Posted: Fri Feb 26, 2021 1:54 am
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https://www.axios.com/mcconnell-trump-2 ... ab82b.htmlMcConnell says he'll "absolutely" support Trump if he's 2024 GOP presidential nominee
McConnell would "absolutely" support Son Of Sam if he's 2024 GOP Presidential nominee, because Mitch McConnell has no spine, soul, ethics or morals.headshot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:38 amhttps://www.axios.com/mcconnell-trump-2 ... ab82b.htmlMcConnell says he'll "absolutely" support Trump if he's 2024 GOP presidential nominee
Holy f.ck, it actually happened.Chris Preston wrote: ↑Thu Feb 25, 2021 10:42 amDonald Trump to be inaugurated President of the United States on March 4
Is the latest prediction doing the rounds at Qanon. People have been booking out the Trump International Hotel in anticipation.
Key people who might have opposed ended up leaving, eg the Lincoln Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lincoln_Projectsideshowjim wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:03 pmThere doesn't seem to be any desire or guiding force within the party to actually move beyond Trump and the full-on hate-group approach.
I think there's been at least a few who have paid attention to it and decided how they'll do it differently next time, but is there any counter to it at all?
Lincoln Project is little more than an advertising campaign now. Those who are or were appalled by the path they were going down have now retired or quit, leaving A- Empty suits who are bewildered by the whole thing and need to be given notes from Oil firms and shouty media outlets about what they're supposed to say, B- Core functionaries whose job it is to block anything and everything through whatever means they can for no purpose other than keeping themselves relevant, C- Younger media-ready types whose career plan is "incite violent conflict and be in charge of it". Many of them seem to be quite well funded.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Wed Mar 10, 2021 7:46 amKey people who might have opposed ended up leaving, eg the Lincoln Project https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Lincoln_Projectsideshowjim wrote: ↑Tue Mar 09, 2021 11:03 pmThere doesn't seem to be any desire or guiding force within the party to actually move beyond Trump and the full-on hate-group approach.
I think there's been at least a few who have paid attention to it and decided how they'll do it differently next time, but is there any counter to it at all?
The fight between Trump and the Republican Party is now being played out over money. Trump is fundraising separately and wants to control the purse strings. https://www.vox.com/22321215/trump-rnc- ... feud-purge
If he succeeds he’ll control the power that matters most in the party. In that case look forward to Ivanka running in 2023.
FlammableFlower wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:09 pmMatt Gaetz accused of acts that wouldn't be out of place in a Q conspiracy theory...
Brilliantly, he attempts to claim it's a political attack by the Biden administration - except the investigation was begun by the DoJ under Barr and the last administration.
Then he claims his family is being extorted - except even though the investigation has been going on for months, no charges there have been brought and the claimed amount extorted is many times what Gaetz is thought to be worth, so would be impossible to pay.
Then he goes on Tucker Carlson's Fox show and attempts to draw Carlson in as part of his defense -"Hey Tucker, remember that time you, your wife, me and this girl went for meal?"... Carlson, "Nope, can't recall that at all", then afterwards attempting to put the most blue water possible between him and Gaetz.
In addition, Devin Nunes is being investigated for campaign finance irregularities - apparently it's his mum's fault.
Yep, republican party implosion may just be a thing.
I'm not sure if this is two men trying to throw each other under the same bus, or if it's two separate buses, but there's an awful lot of Under Bus Throwing goin' on.Huffpost wrote:Gaetz tried twice to lure Carlson into the story.
“I’m not the only person on screen right now who’s been falsely accused of a terrible sex act,” Gaetz declared. “You know what this feels like.”
The Fox News host later said that the accusation was from “a mentally ill viewer” whom he said he had never met and that the allegation was from 20 years ago.
Later in the interview, Gaetz mentioned bringing a woman to meet the Fox News host.
“You’ll remember her,” Gaetz insisted as he claimed the woman was later “threatened by the FBI.”
“I don’t remember the woman you’re speaking of or the context at all, honestly,” Carlson said.
No, no, no.Vertigowooyay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 31, 2021 3:28 pm
I'm not sure if this is two men trying to throw each other under the same bus, or if it's two separate buses, but there's an awful lot of Under Bus Throwing goin' on.
I wonder if Moscow Mitch has anything to to with so many major institutional investors from his state of Kentucky being heavily invested in SberbankVertigowooyay wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 11:03 amMcConnell would "absolutely" support Son Of Sam if he's 2024 GOP Presidential nominee, because Mitch McConnell has no spine, soul, ethics or morals.headshot wrote: ↑Fri Feb 26, 2021 9:38 amhttps://www.axios.com/mcconnell-trump-2 ... ab82b.htmlMcConnell says he'll "absolutely" support Trump if he's 2024 GOP presidential nominee
As far as I know, the US is the only country that has ever operated F-22 planes, adding to the stupidity.Trump mused to donors that we should take our F-22 planes, "put the Chinese flag on them and bomb the sh.t out" out of Russia. "And then we say, China did it, we didn't do, China did it, and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch."
The Chinese have a plane which is a copy of the F-22.Pishwish wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:19 amYou almost get used to the fact that this guy was, and could be again, the president.As far as I know, the US is the only country that has ever operated F-22 planes, adding to the stupidity.Trump mused to donors that we should take our F-22 planes, "put the Chinese flag on them and bomb the sh.t out" out of Russia. "And then we say, China did it, we didn't do, China did it, and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch."
https://www.popularmechanics.com/milita ... air-force/The J-20, China’s first fifth generation fighter, was purpose built not only to serve as a competitor for America’s F-22 Raptor, but in many ways, as a direct copy. Plans for the Lockheed Martin design were stolen by a Chinese national named Su Bin, who was sentenced to 46 months in federal prison for his crime. The repercussions of his efforts on behalf of the Chinese government will live on for decades.
Aside from the obvious addition of forward canards on the J-20, the two aircraft look nearly identical thanks to China’s access to classified F-22 development data, but as is often the case, the similarities seem to end with the aesthetic.
Even if the planes were genuine Chinese ones, Russia has satellites and suchlike and can tell the difference between planes that take off from and return to an American base and planes which take off from and return to a Chinese base.Pishwish wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:19 amYou almost get used to the fact that this guy was, and could be again, the president.As far as I know, the US is the only country that has ever operated F-22 planes, adding to the stupidity.Trump mused to donors that we should take our F-22 planes, "put the Chinese flag on them and bomb the sh.t out" out of Russia. "And then we say, China did it, we didn't do, China did it, and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch."
In modern warfare planes are identified by their electronic signals, not markings on their wings. You'd have to fake the Chinese identifiers, I don't know how difficult that would be. Its the kind of things lads in the pub would say after their third pint.Millennie Al wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:07 amEven if the planes were genuine Chinese ones, Russia has satellites and suchlike and can tell the difference between planes that take off from and return to an American base and planes which take off from and return to a Chinese base.Pishwish wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:19 amYou almost get used to the fact that this guy was, and could be again, the president.As far as I know, the US is the only country that has ever operated F-22 planes, adding to the stupidity.Trump mused to donors that we should take our F-22 planes, "put the Chinese flag on them and bomb the sh.t out" out of Russia. "And then we say, China did it, we didn't do, China did it, and then they start fighting with each other and we sit back and watch."
To be a little more specific, you have to fake Chinese identifiers to a third party (which makes things easier) which is working more closely with the Chinese than you, and having all kinds of private communications with them (which means you can't know how much communication that is about identifiers etc. between China and Russia). So, yeah, it's not necessarily impossible, but it is easy to really screw up, and unlikely to be believed even if you did do a perfect job of faking it.Herainestold wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:25 amIn modern warfare planes are identified by their electronic signals, not markings on their wings. You'd have to fake the Chinese identifiers, I don't know how difficult that would be. Its the kind of things lads in the pub would say after their third pint.Millennie Al wrote: ↑Tue Mar 08, 2022 12:07 amEven if the planes were genuine Chinese ones, Russia has satellites and suchlike and can tell the difference between planes that take off from and return to an American base and planes which take off from and return to a Chinese base.Pishwish wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:19 amYou almost get used to the fact that this guy was, and could be again, the president.
As far as I know, the US is the only country that has ever operated F-22 planes, adding to the stupidity.