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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:01 pm

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It's starting to get dark. DC curfew starts in an hour. Police are coming in from neighboring states. This may get worse before it gets better.
This must be mildly scary for locals. I don't want to say "thoughts and prayers", but I hope you and yours are ok through all this.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Mostly Harmless » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:03 pm

bolo wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:59 pm
It's starting to get dark. DC curfew starts in an hour. Police are coming in from neighboring states. This may get worse before it gets better.
This is plainly disrespectful to our great men and women in blue.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by bolo » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:11 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:01 pm
bolo wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:59 pm
It's starting to get dark. DC curfew starts in an hour. Police are coming in from neighboring states. This may get worse before it gets better.
This must be mildly scary for locals. I don't want to say "thoughts and prayers", but I hope you and yours are ok through all this.
Thanks for that. Yes, it is scary. Didn't get a lot of work done today.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by dyqik » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:12 pm

Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:24 pm
dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:15 pm
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Watching CNN who seem a bit over the top, surely? Don't the Capitol police (or capital police or DC police or whatever - it's so confusing) just have to pour in in numbers and shove the protestors out? They don't look armed.
They say they are outnumbered, and the Defense Department have blocked the National Guard - who were deployed in the summer for BLM protests - from assisting.
I'm probably influenced by protests in the UK where the police would simply plonk huge numbers of bodies in the way.
Or BLM protests at exactly the same location, where the military fired on peaceful protestors.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Gfamily » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:15 pm

dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:12 pm
Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:24 pm
dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:15 pm


They say they are outnumbered, and the Defense Department have blocked the National Guard - who were deployed in the summer for BLM protests - from assisting.
I'm probably influenced by protests in the UK where the police would simply plonk huge numbers of bodies in the way.
Or BLM protests at exactly the same location, where the military fired on peaceful protestors.
The police response is a good demonstration of what it means to have white privilege.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by dyqik » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:16 pm

It sounds like the military* is taking orders from Pence, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell and Hoyer, rather than Trump.

https://twitter.com/adegrandpre/status/ ... 8775289856

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Post by Brightonian » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:17 pm

dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:12 pm
Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:24 pm
dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:15 pm


They say they are outnumbered, and the Defense Department have blocked the National Guard - who were deployed in the summer for BLM protests - from assisting.
I'm probably influenced by protests in the UK where the police would simply plonk huge numbers of bodies in the way.
Or BLM protests at exactly the same location, where the military fired on peaceful protestors.
I just watched riot police gently ushering protestors down the steps of the Capitol. I don't think that gentle handling would have happened with BLM protestors.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by bjn » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:18 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:58 pm
bjn wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:58 pm
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Pence calls for the protestors traitors to leave.

Trump doesn't
FTFY
Hmm. I'm not sure if the US Constitution would consider the President an enemy of the USA, which seems to be crucial to the definition of treason (based on my extensive studies at the Wikipedia school of law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason ... ted_States)
Im not sure what other word to use for the armed MAGAs storming the Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power.

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Post by Fishnut » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:19 pm

Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:17 pm
dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:12 pm
Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:24 pm


I'm probably influenced by protests in the UK where the police would simply plonk huge numbers of bodies in the way.
Or BLM protests at exactly the same location, where the military fired on peaceful protestors.
I just watched riot police gently ushering protestors down the steps of the Capitol. I don't think that gentle handling would have happened with BLM protestors.
Why aren't they being arrested? Too busy taking selfies I guess.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by dyqik » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:19 pm

bjn wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:18 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 9:58 pm
bjn wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:58 pm

FTFY
Hmm. I'm not sure if the US Constitution would consider the President an enemy of the USA, which seems to be crucial to the definition of treason (based on my extensive studies at the Wikipedia school of law https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treason ... ted_States)
Im not sure what other word to use for the armed MAGAs storming the Capitol in an attempt to disrupt the peaceful transfer of power.
Treason is strictly for declared war. Sedition and Insurrection are the relevant terms, and have similar penalties under law.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by bjn » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:21 pm

The patheticness of the whole thing is disheartening in a way. The fact that something so disorganised and incompetent could actually get to this point makes the though of someone halfway organised and competent completely terrifying.

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Post by Grumble » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:28 pm

dyqik wrote:
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It sounds like the military* is taking orders from Pence, Pelosi, Schumer, McConnell and Hoyer, rather than Trump.

https://twitter.com/adegrandpre/status/ ... 8775289856

*National Guard
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Post by Vertigowooyay » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:37 pm

The predictability is unflinching.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Brightonian » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:39 pm

lpm wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:10 pm
Maga insurgents attempting to seize state houses in Georgia and Kansas.
KSNT News wrote: UPDATE: According to the Kansas Highway Patrol, protesters at the Kansas Statehouse obtained a permit allowing them to protest at the capitol. There was no breach. This permit allowed protesters to not only be on the lawn, but also inside the building.

https://www.ksnt.com/capitol-bureau/pro ... tatehouse/
All a damp squib I reckon.

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Post by dyqik » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:41 pm

Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:39 pm
lpm wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:10 pm
Maga insurgents attempting to seize state houses in Georgia and Kansas.
KSNT News wrote: UPDATE: According to the Kansas Highway Patrol, protesters at the Kansas Statehouse obtained a permit allowing them to protest at the capitol. There was no breach. This permit allowed protesters to not only be on the lawn, but also inside the building.

https://www.ksnt.com/capitol-bureau/pro ... tatehouse/
All a damp squib I reckon.
Nothing of consequence was happening there, anyway.

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Post by JQH » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:43 pm

Last few days Natural News have been predicting something big happening on the 6th, which I must admit I hadn't given much credence to as Adams had also been predicting the arrest of Biden, Obama, AOC etc for treason.

Obviously this was all planned and equally obviously Mike Adams knew about it. If the FBI and/or Homeland Security aren't working him over right now they are being derelict in their duties.
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Post by dyqik » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:46 pm

JQH wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:43 pm
Last few days Natural News have been predicting something big happening on the 6th, which I must admit I hadn't given much credence to as Adams had also been predicting the arrest of Biden, Obama, AOC etc for treason.

Obviously this was all planned and equally obviously Mike Adams knew about it. If the FBI and/or Homeland Security aren't working him over right now they are being derelict in their duties.
It was planned - they even printed hoodies.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Little waster » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:47 pm

dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:41 pm
Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:39 pm
lpm wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:10 pm
Maga insurgents attempting to seize state houses in Georgia and Kansas.
KSNT News wrote: UPDATE: According to the Kansas Highway Patrol, protesters at the Kansas Statehouse obtained a permit allowing them to protest at the capitol. There was no breach. This permit allowed protesters to not only be on the lawn, but also inside the building.

https://www.ksnt.com/capitol-bureau/pro ... tatehouse/
All a damp squib I reckon.
Nothing of consequence was happening ever happens there, anyway.
FTFY
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Post by dyqik » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:50 pm

Little waster wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:47 pm
dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:41 pm
Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:39 pm



All a damp squib I reckon.
Nothing of consequence was happening ever happens there, anyway.
FTFY
No, it does. The SoS can close polling sites in black areas, for example, or they can pass more attempts to overturn Roe v Wade or impose onerous voting requirements.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by lpm » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:52 pm

Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:17 pm
dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:12 pm
Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 8:24 pm


I'm probably influenced by protests in the UK where the police would simply plonk huge numbers of bodies in the way.
Or BLM protests at exactly the same location, where the military fired on peaceful protestors.
I just watched riot police gently ushering protestors down the steps of the Capitol. I don't think that gentle handling would have happened with BLM protestors.
Hmm. A lot of the twitter left spent months moaning about police violence, but tonight are suddenly upset that the mob isn't being shot and beaten.

The softly softly policing has worked well so far.
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Post by Woodchopper » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:54 pm

lpm wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:52 pm
Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:17 pm
dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:12 pm


Or BLM protests at exactly the same location, where the military fired on peaceful protestors.
I just watched riot police gently ushering protestors down the steps of the Capitol. I don't think that gentle handling would have happened with BLM protestors.
Hmm. A lot of the twitter left spent months moaning about police violence, but tonight are suddenly upset that the mob isn't being shot and beaten.

The softly softly policing has worked well so far.
The police appeared to be heavily outnumbered and the rioters were armed. They probably didn’t have many other options

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by dyqik » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:54 pm

lpm wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:52 pm
Brightonian wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:17 pm
dyqik wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:12 pm


Or BLM protests at exactly the same location, where the military fired on peaceful protestors.
I just watched riot police gently ushering protestors down the steps of the Capitol. I don't think that gentle handling would have happened with BLM protestors.
Hmm. A lot of the twitter left spent months moaning about police violence, but tonight are suddenly upset that the mob isn't being shot and beaten.

The softly softly policing has worked well so far.
Don't be offensively stupid. Twitter is talking about how obvious the bias is, not lamenting the lack of police violence.

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Post by lpm » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:56 pm

Of course the police is biased. Doesn't mean this wasn't the best way to regain control.
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Post by dyqik » Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:58 pm

lpm wrote:
Wed Jan 06, 2021 10:56 pm
Of course the police is biased. Doesn't mean this wasn't the best way to regain control.
Correct. But I don't see what that has to do with your claim above.

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