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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Aug 10, 2022 12:03 am

Well I had no idea what you were alluding too, but after some very risky googling I'm relieved to have found articles like this https://www.axios.com/2022/08/08/trump- ... e-haberman rather than photos of trump's jobbies or whatever.
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Post by Herainestold » Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:56 am

monkey wrote:
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I'm struggling to understand what he would keep and why. Something that could be used as blackmail material?
I reckon The White House knows an awful lot of things that might be useful to someone who claims to be a billionaire.

But I wouldn't discount him simply being a spoilt man child who kept things just because he thought they were his.



I expect that is the case. Woe betide anybody who authorized this operation, when the dictator-king returns to the White House in 2024.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:45 pm

Herainestold wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 3:56 am
monkey wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 9:42 pm
WFJ wrote:
Tue Aug 09, 2022 8:05 pm
I'm struggling to understand what he would keep and why. Something that could be used as blackmail material?
I reckon The White House knows an awful lot of things that might be useful to someone who claims to be a billionaire.

But I wouldn't discount him simply being a spoilt man child who kept things just because he thought they were his.



I expect that is the case. Woe betide anybody who authorized this operation, when the dictator-king returns to the White House in 2024.
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Post by Rich Scopie » Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:49 pm

It first was a rumour dismissed as a lie, but then came the evidence none could deny:
a double page spread in the Sunday Express — the Russians are running the DHSS!

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by monkey » Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:17 pm

Trump is sharing a conspiracy theory that the FBI are planting evidence. Given past behavior, I reckon this means he thinks the FBI found something.

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Post by dyqik » Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:01 am

Also a bunch of PA lawmakers got interviewed by the FBI today about their investigation into a plot to appoint fake electors.

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Post by Martin_B » Thu Aug 11, 2022 12:52 am

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed Aug 10, 2022 7:45 pm
The threats are getting worse. https://twitter.com/repswalwell/status/ ... R1w9CHqpag
I'm wondering if that would be a good campaign ad for the Democrats, as in: Vote for us, or these people get power
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by lpm » Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:46 pm

Why do they never start their press conferences on time ?

CNN and CNBC showing an empty podium.

I've no idea how much Garland can reveal.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:48 pm

lpm wrote:
Thu Aug 11, 2022 6:46 pm
Why do they never start their press conferences on time ?

CNN and CNBC showing an empty podium.

I've no idea how much Garland can reveal.
I’m expecting vagueness turned up to kind of you know
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Post by lpm » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:11 pm

Interesting. He didn't say anything. But interesting nonetheless.

Puts Trump on the spot - he now has to object to the unsealing of the warrant.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:17 pm

Looking forward to all the Trumpers who were demanding that the warrant be unsealed doing a handbrake U turn to complaining it is going to be unsealed

https://twitter.com/badsciencemonk/stat ... 4ZNbqrWpIg
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Post by Stranger Mouse » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:22 pm

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by lpm » Thu Aug 11, 2022 7:24 pm

It's a nice little counter move. Trump has never been able to look more than one move ahead. He impulsively made it public, now he has to demand to a judge that he wants it secret.

It's a good mystery. What is in those boxes and why didn't Trump just hand them back during the months of legal negotiations?
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by dyqik » Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:32 am

Nuclear documents, which are classified by law, not by presidential order...

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:37 am

dyqik wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:32 am
Nuclear documents, which are classified by law, not by presidential order...
Wonder if he he was planning on selling them to the Saudis

Also - f.ck around and find out nail gun edition

https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/sta ... RwM4Ng-Rsw

Also Fox using bad photoshop

https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1557 ... TsAa6IXNmQ
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by Stranger Mouse » Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:44 am

Apparently Trump lawyer hasn’t bothered to check with Trump heather he had nuclear documentation https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1557 ... TsAa6IXNmQ
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by lpm » Fri Aug 12, 2022 6:38 am

The idea that he kept nuclear docs to sell to Saudi is absurd. And also pretty likely.
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Post by FlammableFlower » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:15 am

lpm wrote:
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The idea that he kept nuclear docs to sell to Saudi is absurd. And also pretty likely.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by dyqik » Fri Aug 12, 2022 11:20 am

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:44 am
Apparently Trump lawyer hasn’t bothered to check with Trump heather he had nuclear documentation https://twitter.com/atrupar/status/1557 ... TsAa6IXNmQ
In the UK at least, "special nuclear materials" means actual material for nuclear reactions - e.g. tritium, plutonium, etc.

So the wording there raises all sorts of alarm bells with me. ;)

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by lpm » Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:23 pm

What do we reckon to the odds of Trump objecting? He has to respond at 3pm foreign time, I believe.

I'm assuming he'll refuse to let them be unsealed. It sounds like the judge is supposed to give preference to his views - the judge can in theory decide to unseal despite Trump's objections, but would be unlikely to do so in practice.
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by dyqik » Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:32 pm

lpm wrote:
Fri Aug 12, 2022 1:23 pm
What do we reckon to the odds of Trump objecting? He has to respond at 3pm foreign time, I believe.

I'm assuming he'll refuse to let them be unsealed. It sounds like the judge is supposed to give preference to his views - the judge can in theory decide to unseal despite Trump's objections, but would be unlikely to do so in practice.
The attack on an FBI office yesterday in retaliation for the search is an exceptional reason to unseal over Trump's objections.

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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by lpm » Fri Aug 12, 2022 3:10 pm

Twitter seems to think Trump won't be objecting.

Based on the fact he said he won't.

Have people learned nothing in the last 7 years?
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Re: US 2021 Capitol insurrection

Post by dyqik » Fri Aug 12, 2022 4:04 pm

New Republican defense of Trump:

Everyone has classified nuclear documents available on their phones.

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