Scrutable

Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 31, 2022 11:33 am

Judging by that carpet, the "storage location" appears to be Trump's nearest Wetherspoons.

bjn wrote: ↑

Wed Aug 31, 2022 10:49 pm

Not a believer in putting the shovel down is he. But he has the best holes, the deepest holes, top people work on making sure his holes are the biggliest holes you can have.

For context….

it is illegal to remove "Top Secret" category materials from their official place of storage without full authorisation. Unless these documents are then securely stored in cartons. It is extra illegal if these documents are spread out on carpets instead.

lpm wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 01, 2022 9:11 am

His lawyers have confirmed to the court he had the documents in his possession, knew about them and stored them in cartons. And also confirmed the documents had top-level classification markings.

Interestingly, in last night's filing they failed to present the "they were declassified by magic" defence.

Only defence left that I can think of: "it was a secure setting".

There's also the problem that his lawyers appear to have broken the law alongside him, opening up the risk that his attorney-client privilege could become void.

Trump's obsession with getting a special master is silly, the DOJ has told the court some with potential attorney-client privilege were filtered out by a separate internal team and all of the remainder have already been reviewed by the agents actually working on the case.

Washington Post wrote:Box No. 25, for example, contains 76 magazines and articles published in 2016 and 2017. Mixed in with those media clippings was a government document with a “confidential” classification marking and another with a “secret” classification marking, according to the inventory list.

The box also contained 20 government documents and photographs with no classification, the court filing says. And there was an empty folder with a “CLASSIFIED” banner on it. It’s unclear if Trump and his associates took the folder from the White House without any documents in it, or if documents had been in the folder but were later removed.

FlammableFlower wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:51 pm

Washington Post wrote:Box No. 25, for example, contains 76 magazines and articles published in 2016 and 2017. Mixed in with those media clippings was a government document with a “confidential” classification marking and another with a “secret” classification marking, according to the inventory list.

The box also contained 20 government documents and photographs with no classification, the court filing says. And there was an empty folder with a “CLASSIFIED” banner on it. It’s unclear if Trump and his associates took the folder from the White House without any documents in it, or if documents had been in the folder but were later removed.

ETA - total of 43 empty CLASSIFIED folders were found...

Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 7:30 pm

I suppose the big question is whether the contents of the 43 classified folders are elsewhere in the boxes which were returned/confiscated or whether they are now missing.

lpm wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:18 pm

Actually multiple layers would make more sense.

Blank on the outside folder.

Then a label on the folder inside, saying who can go further.

Then a folder inside that, with the document identifiers.

Then the actual stuff.

Maybe Donald always liked pass the parcel and kept the wrappings.

Grumble wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 10:01 pm

lpm wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 02, 2022 9:18 pm

Actually multiple layers would make more sense.

Blank on the outside folder.

Then a label on the folder inside, saying who can go further.

Then a folder inside that, with the document identifiers.

Then the actual stuff.

Maybe Donald always liked pass the parcel and kept the wrappings.

Transporting classified information normally requires a blank outer layer. Can be a briefcase, or at minimum another folder. You should never be in the situation where you can be photographed and people can see you have classified information in your hands.

bjn wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:47 pm

Steve Bannon in handcuffs…..

https://twitter.com/DonLew87/status/1567952105788555265

Martin_B wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 08, 2022 11:52 pm

bjn wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 08, 2022 8:47 pm

Steve Bannon in handcuffs…..

https://twitter.com/DonLew87/status/1567952105788555265

Couldn't happen to a more deserving bloke