Well, I'd say the charitable interpretation would be that he took a routine test required for some purpose unrelated to suspicion of actual infection (e.g. as needed for international travel, or as might be required by some organisations to attend meetings) and he was very surprised that it was positive and immediately after getting the result self-isolated to ensure he didn't pass it on. Maybe more evidence will emerge to show what really happened.
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Except he didn't isolate, he was attending publicity events and getting his picture taken maskless. And how did he think he was going to get into Australia without a vaccination? Did he deliberately expose himself in order to get a positive test so he could qualify according to what he was told by Tennis Australia?Millennie Al wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 1:26 amWell, I'd say the charitable interpretation would be that he took a routine test required for some purpose unrelated to suspicion of actual infection (e.g. as needed for international travel, or as might be required by some organisations to attend meetings) and he was very surprised that it was positive and immediately after getting the result self-isolated to ensure he didn't pass it on. Maybe more evidence will emerge to show what really happened.
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https://www.bmj.com/content/bmj/373/bmj.n987.full.pdf (PDF - single page)
Covid-19: Irish GP who refused to vaccinate patients is suspended
Clare Dyer
An Irish GP who refused to vaccinate his patients against SARS-CoV-2 and referred to media information
about the pandemic as “propaganda” and a “hoax” has been suspended from the medical register by the
High Court of Ireland.
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The court filing by lawyers for the Australian government also reveal Djokovic, 34, is unvaccinated.
Who knew!
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"There is no suggestion that the applicant had 'acute major medical illness' in December 2021. All he has said is that he tested positive for COVID-19. This is not the same," it said, adding there was "no such thing as an assurance of entry by a non-citizen into Australia".
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WTF? Nigel Farage has weighed in, popping up in Belgrade:
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Djokovic released, on the grounds that the government didn’t give him sufficient notice about cancelling his visa.
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Turns out, not such a fan of the Australian border system after allBrightonian wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:44 pmWTF? Nigel Farage has weighed in, popping up in Belgrade:
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And apparently pro freedom of movement for workers from Slavic countries. Who knew?Trinucleus wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:06 amTurns out, not such a fan of the Australian border system after allBrightonian wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:44 pmWTF? Nigel Farage has weighed in, popping up in Belgrade:
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FIFYWFJ wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:15 amAnd apparently pro freedom of movement for workers from Slavic countries elite. Who knew?Trinucleus wrote: ↑Mon Jan 10, 2022 10:06 amTurns out, not such a fan of the Australian border system after allBrightonian wrote: ↑Sun Jan 09, 2022 11:44 pmWTF? Nigel Farage has weighed in, popping up in Belgrade:
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So the vaunted, tough, Australian border controls fold in the face of a rich celebrity.
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I'd like to see transcripts of Djokovic's conversation with Tennis Australia three/four weeks ago... and the seizure and retesting of that convenient PCR-positive swab also from "three/four weeks ago". If the swab even exists. But I'm sure the Serbs are just as corrupt and complicity in this fuckery as Tennis Australia and Victoria State are, and they won't investigate his social interactions in the day(s) following the positive result either.DJOKOVIC wrote:I mean, I am really failing to understand what else do you want me to provide to you. I have provided all the documents that Tennis Australia and Victorian government has asked me to do in the last three/four weeks, this is what we have been doing. My agent and I have been in a constant communication with Tennis Australia and Victorian state government, the medical panel…
He doesn't have a medical reason why he can't be vaccinated, and as far as I understand it previous infection isn't enough to enter Australia for non-residents.
He was subjected to torture no he f.cking was not.
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Victoria state government should never have facilitated his illegal entry imho.
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The Australian federal government, Victoria state government and Tennis Australia needed to be on the same page, and they obviously were not.
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I can understand how Novax thought he'd get away with it was acting in good faith, believing Victoria State had the power to let him in to Australia when I expect they only had the power to let him play. And I also understand that the overturning of the cancellation seems to have to do with it having been cancelled at 07:42 (having kept him there all night) when he'd been told he had until 08:30, which was maybe not entirely fair, so the ABF left themselves open to criticism there.
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Djokovic declared he had not travelled for 14 days before entering Australia, a claim apparently contradicted by social media posts.
But I notice that the "Date of sampling" is 16.12.2021 13:05:12 and the "Date of result" is 16.12.2021 20:19:56 so he should have known that he was positive on the 17th when he was doing this: https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/statu ... 0967107586
Of course, assuming it wasn't a faked result to get him the exemption to go to Australia...
In his Australian traveller declaration, filed on 1 January, Djokovic declared “no” when asked: “Have you travelled or will you travel in the 14 days prior to your flight to Australia?”
In documents filed to the federal circuit court, Djokovic said that on 1 January he authorised his agent to submit this declaration, before travelling to Melbourne from Spain via Dubai on 4 January.
A Twitter post by a Portuguese tennis reporter, Jose Morgado, appears to show Djokovic was in Belgrade at Christmas, posing with the handball star Petar Djordjic.
Djokovic was also pictured playing tennis in the streets of Belgrade in a video post on Instagram from 26 December, which now appears to have been taken down.
Djokovic flew from Spain to Melbourne, where he arrived at 11.30pm on 5 January.
(Scanning it now it says it's positive.)The travel declaration comes on top of reported anomalies on the official website showing Djokovic’s positive Covid test, which was the basis for his claimed medical exemption from vaccination. Der Spiegel reported that the QR code linked to Djokovic’s Covid-19 test on 16 December, published in court documents on Monday, at times appeared to return a negative result.
According to Der Spiegel, accessing Djokovic’s test result via QR code on Monday evening Australia time revealed a negative test result, before a subsequent attempt showed a positive result.
The website returned only positive results when accessed by the Guardian on Tuesday.
The New York Times reporter Ben Rothenberg similarly reported getting contradictory results from the same QR code.
But I notice that the "Date of sampling" is 16.12.2021 13:05:12 and the "Date of result" is 16.12.2021 20:19:56 so he should have known that he was positive on the 17th when he was doing this: https://twitter.com/BenRothenberg/statu ... 0967107586
Of course, assuming it wasn't a faked result to get him the exemption to go to Australia...
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I wonder what kind of reception he's going to get from the Australian crowd (if large numbers don't boycott it)? Tennis Australia have soooo majorly f.cked up.
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Some good news is that despite Tennis Australia f.cking up with the Novax situation, vaccination rates among professional tennis players have increased recently and the assumption is that this is down to Australia's strict entry regulations.
I can't find the stats online so apologies for the fuzziness of the numbers and definitions but it was reported on the Today programme this morning on R4 that rates among female players* have increased from 85%** to 96%. Men are at 97% but either they didn't say or I missed what that's increased from. They also didn't say, or again I missed it, over what time period this increase was.
*I'm not sure exactly what the definition of the player group was but presumably high level professionals if they're deducing that the increase is due to the Aus Open.
**IIRC, was definitely mid-80s.
I can't find the stats online so apologies for the fuzziness of the numbers and definitions but it was reported on the Today programme this morning on R4 that rates among female players* have increased from 85%** to 96%. Men are at 97% but either they didn't say or I missed what that's increased from. They also didn't say, or again I missed it, over what time period this increase was.
*I'm not sure exactly what the definition of the player group was but presumably high level professionals if they're deducing that the increase is due to the Aus Open.
**IIRC, was definitely mid-80s.
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If Djokovic made clearly false statements for immigration (about travel or Covid test results), that could be career-ending as both the UK and USA immigration applications ask if you have ever been deported (from any country) and take a very dim view of misleading immigration authorities of any country - especially a friendly country like Australia. That could be effectively a ban from three of the slam tournaments, and France might take a similar stance, blocking access to the French Open also.
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How did he think he was going to get into Oz, if he didn't fortuitously get a positive test on Dec 16. The whole thing seems fishy.
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Well he had to really, didn't he? Otherwise he'd have been forced to admit that his test was faked and he'd lied to a lot of people, Aus immigration included. And that would definitely have been the worse option to admit to.shpalman wrote: ↑Wed Jan 12, 2022 7:50 amNovak Djokovic admits breaking isolation while Covid "positive"
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I'm sure the Ozzy border force are pretty laid back about "human error" on immigration documents when deciding whether to incarcerate refugees in their tropical gulags.
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Haha, I was just reading about Novax clearing up the misinformation, saying that he'd been taking regular LFTs that were negative. But then, he got a positive from a PCR that he took out of an "abundance of caution".
Which he then ignored.
Which he then ignored.