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US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:12 pm
by Bird on a Fire
Indianapolis, 8 dead, automatic rifle, motive unclear
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56770200

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:35 pm
by Little waster
Thoughts and prayers, but now is not the right time.




I'm just going to go all Onion on this and just c&p this response each time.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:08 pm
by Boustrophedon
Where were the armed security guards? Why did the employees not have guns? Why is open carry not happening at FedEx? What are FedEx afraid of?

The hard won freedom to enjoy firearms and the protection they give is in danger because people don't avail themselves of the protection that carrying a simple semi automatic handgun with an extended magazine affords. None of this wouldn't have happened if gun free zones had not been allowed to become the norm. #moreguns.

Anyway this is a FalSe fLaG operation with paid CrISis ActOrs, paid to wear makeup and fake blood, a conspiracy by left wing socialists to encourage attacks on the Second Amendment.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 1:51 pm
by monkey
Most mass shootings don't even make national news, and there's more than one a day on average. (It does of course depend on the definition).

Here's Wiki's list for 2021: clicky. Up to March there has been 126 incidents, with 70 dead and 180 wounded.

In 2020 there were 446 deaths and 2,515 injuries. (clicky).

For context in 2018 the CDC say there were 38,390 gun deaths, of which 24,432 were by suicide and 13,958 were homicides, which includes accidental stuff.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:14 pm
by bmforre
I believe they don't sell handgrenades over the counter. Wonder why not? Could get statistics a real boost.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:30 pm
by Little waster
bmforre wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:14 pm
I believe they don't sell handgrenades over the counter. Wonder why not? Could get statistics a real boost.
The only thing that stops a bad man with a hand-grenade is a good man with a hand-grenade... Or possibly a butterfly net.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:53 pm
by dyqik
Little waster wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:30 pm
bmforre wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:14 pm
I believe they don't sell handgrenades over the counter. Wonder why not? Could get statistics a real boost.
The only thing that stops a bad man with a hand-grenade is a good man with a hand-grenade... Or possibly a butterfly net.
Tennis racket.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 2:53 pm
by Boustrophedon
Little waster wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 12:35 pm
Thoughts and prayers, but now is not the right time.




I'm just going to go all Onion on this and just c&p this response each time.
The Onion: ‘Oh God What Happened Now,’

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:30 pm
by Boustrophedon
It may seem to some that my response to this, of resolutely taking the piss, is in bad taste.
Yes, yes it is.
But I don't know how else to respond to an endless day by day creeping massacre of innocents, self inflicted by the dominant democracy on the planet.
What can one say, when even offering to keep the victim's families in your thoughts or offer our prayers sounds insincere and hackneyed with endless repetition?

My Dad and I saw the writing on the wall after Hungerford and we sold our guns and gave up our weekly meetings down the club. I don't regret that decision.

We did miss some of our friends down the club, the ones whose interest only lay in putting little holes in a one inch dot at 25 feet. Others gave us the creeps with their gun obsession. Creeps who later were put away for many years for firearms offences. Not piddling little offences but "importation of uncounted AKs by the ton into the UK and exporting them to countries with UN sanctions against them," sort of offences. Creeps who didn't care who got killed by those guns.

Don't trust anyone who likes guns.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:14 pm
by dyqik
Boustrophedon wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:30 pm
<Context snipped>

Don't trust anyone who likes guns.
Particularly anyone who likes guns over activities that happen to involve guns, like target shooting, hunting, marching up and down the square, etc.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:59 pm
by Boustrophedon
dyqik wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 4:14 pm
Boustrophedon wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:30 pm
<Context snipped>

Don't trust anyone who likes guns.
Particularly anyone who likes guns over activities that happen to involve guns, like target shooting, hunting, marching up and down the square, etc.
Thanks, that was the point. It's the love of guns as guns rather than love of the sporting use. Although many would defend the sporting use of the 30 round magazine AR15 semi auto. Guess those hawgs will shoot back one day.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri Apr 16, 2021 5:35 pm
by monkey
Boustrophedon wrote:
Fri Apr 16, 2021 3:30 pm
It may seem to some that my response to this, of resolutely taking the piss, is in bad taste.
Yes, yes it is.
But I don't know how else to respond to an endless day by day creeping massacre of innocents, self inflicted by the dominant democracy on the planet.
What can one say, when even offering to keep the victim's families in your thoughts or offer our prayers sounds insincere and hackneyed with endless repetition?
I think that dark humour is a normal reaction that many people have to horrible things happening. Whether or not it is acceptable or not depends on 2 things:

1. Your proximity to people affected by the event: A funeral is not a good place to make jokes about how someone died.

2. Who the butt of the joke is. You started sarcastically mimicking the usual right wing response to mass shootings, highlighting the absurd USian culture that allows them to happen. It would be a very different thing if you were making jokes at the victims' expense.

As for "thoughts and prayers", it's only the politicians who could actually fix things saying it I have a big problem with saying it. Mostly ordinary people are powerless and a gesture of sympathy is all they can do.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Sat Apr 17, 2021 6:29 pm
by Fishnut
There have been at least 45 mass shootings in the past 30 days according to CNN. This piece lists each even by date, while this piece gives a geographical overview.
Screenshot from CNN of US mass shooting locations.jpg
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Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 12:53 pm
by Opti
Aren't these just 'false flag' operations to further the radical socialist agenda?
I mean, why else would this be happening?

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:19 pm
by Martin_B
Looking at the map:

a) is this why survivalists like living in the Rockies?
b) despite the documentary series, Fargo and the surrounding area looks like a nice safe place to live

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:39 pm
by Woodchopper
Martin_B wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:19 pm
Looking at the map:

a) is this why survivalists like living in the Rockies?
b) despite the documentary series, Fargo and the surrounding area looks like a nice safe place to live
Yes, Minneapolis seems to be an exception, but overall the map seems to correlate with population density.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Mon Apr 19, 2021 9:41 am
by dyqik
Woodchopper wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:39 pm
Martin_B wrote:
Sun Apr 18, 2021 1:19 pm
Looking at the map:

a) is this why survivalists like living in the Rockies?
b) despite the documentary series, Fargo and the surrounding area looks like a nice safe place to live
Yes, Minneapolis seems to be an exception, but overall the map seems to correlate with population density.
There are disaffected gun nuts everywhere, and a fairly large number of mass shootings are disgruntled employees or school pupils, which obviously correlates with population density. And that's before the apocalyptic types start traveling from Ohio to NYC (to give the most recent probable example) in order to shoot liberals.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Fri May 20, 2022 7:27 pm
by Gfamily
A timeline based on someone's reading of the Buffalo shooter's Discord messages.
h/t @neilhimself
https://twitter.com/oneunderscore__/sta ... 2928852993

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 8:59 am
by TimW
21.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:29 am
by Grumble
TimW wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 8:59 am
21.
Killed all the kids after being engaged by police. So the good guys with guns failed to stop the main attack.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 9:34 am
by Little waster
Grumble wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 9:29 am
TimW wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 8:59 am
21.
Killed all the kids after being engaged by police. So the good guys with guns failed to stop the main attack.
The Onion wrote:'No Way To Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens
I'm thoughting and prayering as hard as I can but it doesn't seem to be working. :(

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:34 am
by kerrya1
Woke up this morning, read the news headlines and pulled the covers back over my head.

At this point what more can be said or done to make things change in the US? If not even Sandyhook could make a difference then I've really given up all hope.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:19 am
by Martin Y
Worse than Dunblane and having armed guards didn't prevent it.

While the people whose cooperation would be required aren't willing to permit anything effective to be done about these events there's hardly any point even discussing them.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:47 am
by Chris Preston
Greg Abbott, Governor of Texas will address the NRA convention in Houston later this week.

Re: US mass shooting of the day

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 4:36 pm
by tom p
Chris Preston wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 11:47 am
Greg Abbott, Governor of Texas will address the NRA convention in Houston later this week.
Would that a good guy with a gun would get to him and all the other a..eh.le politicians who are wholly owned subsidiaries of the NRA