The end of cows?

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Re: The end of cows?

Post by Boustrophedon » Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:08 pm

Grumble wrote:
Fri Jun 10, 2022 5:23 pm
Chambers dictionary says:
milk /milk/
noun
1: A white liquid secreted by female mammals for the nourishment of their young
2: A milklike juice or preparation
Milky milky.
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Re: The end of cows?

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Re: The end of cows?

Post by dyqik » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:16 pm

Grumble wrote:
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Milk of magnesia is so called because of its resemblance to milk, but no-one is likely to confuse the two. Maybe we should extend the same credit to consumers of nut milk.
Ditto the milk of the rubber tree, and coconut milk.

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Re: The end of cows?

Post by Gfamily » Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:31 pm

Amusing that the OED has this for the sixth use of 'milk'
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Re: The end of cows?

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sat Jul 09, 2022 12:53 pm

Investments in plant-based alternatives to meat lead to far greater cuts in climate-heating emissions than other green investments, according to one of the world’s biggest consultancy firms.

The report from the Boston Consulting Group (BCG) found that, for each dollar, investment in improving and scaling up the production of meat and dairy alternatives resulted in three times more greenhouse gas reductions compared with investment in green cement technology, seven times more than green buildings and 11 times more than zero-emission cars.

Investments in the plant-based alternatives to meat delivered this high impact on emissions because of the big difference between the greenhouse gases emitted when producing conventional meat and dairy products, and when growing plants. Beef, for example, results in six-to-30 times more emissions than tofu.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... port-finds

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Re: The end of cows?

Post by Sciolus » Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:43 pm

Crikey. Private Eye's farming columnist, hardly a right-on firebrand, says we should eat less meat and dairy. They are mostly concerned about food self-sufficiency, but also say that "much of the land that is currently farmed with livestock or used to grow grain for chicken, pigs and cattle could then be released for rewilding."

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Re: The end of cows?

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sat Jul 09, 2022 7:58 pm

Sciolus wrote:
Sat Jul 09, 2022 5:43 pm
Crikey. Private Eye's farming columnist, hardly a right-on firebrand, says we should eat less meat and dairy. They are mostly concerned about food self-sufficiency, but also say that "much of the land that is currently farmed with livestock or used to grow grain for chicken, pigs and cattle could then be released for rewilding."
Awesome. The normies are fiiiiiinally catching up.
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Re: The end of cows?

Post by Bird on a Fire » Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:49 pm

Plant-based meat alternatives have suddenly become cheaper than their conventional counterparts, according to new figures. Compiled by supermarket researcher Questionmark on behalf of the Dutch branch of food awareness organization ProVeg International, the data shows how inflation and high raw material prices have caused animal meat prices to skyrocket in comparison with plant-based alt meats.

“Meat is much more sensitive to disruptions in the world market than meat alternatives”
https://vegconomist.com/market-and-tren ... therlands/

Plant proteins in general have been cheaper than meat for ages, if not forever, due to using orders of magnitude less resources. But at least in some economies even fake meat is cheaper than the dead animal version, which is good news. (Fake meat prices are basically stable, whereas dead animals have increased above inflation).
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Re: The end of cows?

Post by shpalman » Fri Sep 02, 2022 3:08 pm

Vegan activists have vowed to cause massive disruption to the UK’s milk supplies this month
Vegan activists have vowed to cause massive disruption to the UK’s milk supplies this month, as they demand the government supports a transition to a “plant-based food system” and rewild land used for animal pasture.

Animal Rebellion, an offshoot of Extinction Rebellion that focuses on the environmental harms of animal agriculture, claims it has hundreds of supporters willing to be arrested and go to prison for taking direct action.

The group also said it would take action at supermarkets in five UK cities on Saturday by blocking shoppers from reaching milk and dairy aisles.
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Re: The end of cows?

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sat Sep 03, 2022 11:30 am

Sounds like a brilliant PR move. Unlike meat, dairy substitutes are more expensive AFAIAA (due to enormous taxpayer subsidies which need to be phased out).

Not great to put the blame on consumers, especially during a cost of living crisis, and disrupting the milk aisle isn't as effective a protest as disrupting e.g. a motorway.

Really wish activists could organise a bit more strategically against important targets, but it's not easy with all the police surveillance and infiltration and the fact that many of the most important targets would come under "anti-terror" legislation.
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Re: The end of cows?

Post by Bird on a Fire » Tue Sep 06, 2022 6:27 pm

Dutch city of Haarlem may be world’s first to ban most meat ads

The ban is proposed due to meat's hefty impact on global climate:
The UN says livestock generate more than 14% of all man-made greenhouse gases, including methane.

"Meat is very harmful to the environment. We cannot tell people that there is a climate crisis and encourage them to buy products that are part of it," Ziggy Klazes, a councillor from GroenLinks who drafted the motion, told the Trouw newspaper.
Some backlash from the usual types:
"The authorities are going too far in telling people what's best for them," said a spokesman from the Central Organisation for the Meat Sector.

The right-wing BVNL party called it an "unacceptable violation of entrepreneurial freedom" and said it "would be fatal for pig farmers".

"Banning commercials from politically born motives is almost dictatorial," Haarlem BVNL councillor Joey Rademaker said.
Yes sweetie, democratically elected governments passing motions is a dictatorship, while small groups of private interests conspiring to cook the entire planet is just "entrepreneurial freedom".
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