Angela Rayner
Angela Rayner
Toss up between her and Gove for the next PM I reckon.
Re: Angela Rayner
Gove will have a ponytail and a sports car by then.
Re: Angela Rayner
No, the rumours indicate different tastes.
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Re: Angela Rayner
Funnily enough, the rumours cover that issue as well
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Re: Angela Rayner
I googled for Angela Rayner rumours, and there seems to be some suggestion she is or was shagging a married MP https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12898761/ ... arried-mp/
Sadly adding "dangling" to my search didn't turn up anything salacious, and I'm super curious.
Sadly adding "dangling" to my search didn't turn up anything salacious, and I'm super curious.
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Re: Angela Rayner
Have you guys read up on her background? She’s done it the hard way. Class act.
Re: Angela Rayner
She's genuine working class, but shouty 'tory scum' rheotoric suggests her objectivity and restraint are roughly on the same level as Trump's, but in the opposite direction.
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Re: Angela Rayner
We were talking about Michael Gove rumours, not Angela Rayner rumours.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:20 pmI googled for Angela Rayner rumours, and there seems to be some suggestion she is or was shagging a married MP https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/12898761/ ... arried-mp/
Sadly adding "dangling" to my search didn't turn up anything salacious, and I'm super curious.
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Not sure I dare Google that. Who knows what I'll find.
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His affair with Gina Coladangelo (is that the dang(e)l-ing referred) is now fact rather than rumour, and has resulted in divorce proceedings from his journalist gossipmonger wife of 20 years, Sarah Vine.Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:57 amNot sure I dare Google that. Who knows what I'll find.
The unconfirmed rumours just look like stuff made up to discredit him. I don't know why they bothered, as he is quite good at doing that all on his ownsome. But who knows?
There's this very disreputable Spectator article "My husband's gay affair with Gove" by Mary Wakefield, who is Mrs Dominic Cummings. It was apparently rumoured in the very obscure Mail on Sunday, with suggestions it came from Gavin Williamson.
And this Popbitch article "Swing vote" discussing some equally tenuous evidence that Michael and his soon-to-be-ex-missus used to have swingers' parties, apparently coded by Liz Truss in an Instagram.
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Re: Angela Rayner
The dangling was a reference to some popbitch rumours about his cock.
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Re: Angela Rayner
I think you're confusing Matt Hancock with Gove on the affair with Gina?
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yeah, that was Hancock
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Re: Angela Rayner
We could do with a few more politicians speaking their minds, I certainly agree with her and I think many people will. One of the reasons for Trump succeeding was that he wasn’t guarded in his language and people like that.
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Re: Angela Rayner
Some people do, but I think it can have terrible polarising effects when it comes across as blanket dehumanization of political opponents. We saw it with Trump in the US, and it can happen just as destructively from the left. I'd prefer a leader who unites people.
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What Rayner did is worlds apart from what Trump did and continues to do. There's barely any comparison.sheldrake wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:34 pmSome people do, but I think it can have terrible polarising effects when it comes across as blanket dehumanization of political opponents. We saw it with Trump in the US, and it can happen just as destructively from the left. I'd prefer a leader who unites people.
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She still should be fired for it, though.
It's like when we insult Sheldrake. It just allows him to focus on what awful people we are to insult him, instead of how sh.t his arguments are.
It's like when we insult Sheldrake. It just allows him to focus on what awful people we are to insult him, instead of how sh.t his arguments are.
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Re: Angela Rayner
Rayner hasn't a platform as leader of the country yet. I'd be very careful with people who say stuff like 'X class of people are scum'.monkey wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:29 pmWhat Rayner did is worlds apart from what Trump did and continues to do. There's barely any comparison.sheldrake wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:34 pmSome people do, but I think it can have terrible polarising effects when it comes across as blanket dehumanization of political opponents. We saw it with Trump in the US, and it can happen just as destructively from the left. I'd prefer a leader who unites people.
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She was speaking to small room of Labour activists. The only reason you heard about the meeting is because she said "scum". When Trump insults people, it's to Rallies of 1000s, in front of international media, with much of that guaranteed to give positive coverage. It's not the same at all. Did you hear her call Tories scum during her conference speech, or in PMQs the other day? No, because Trump is orders of magnitude worse.sheldrake wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:34 pmRayner hasn't a platform as leader of the country yet. I'd be very careful with people who say stuff like 'X class of people are scum'.monkey wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:29 pmWhat Rayner did is worlds apart from what Trump did and continues to do. There's barely any comparison.sheldrake wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:34 pm
Some people do, but I think it can have terrible polarising effects when it comes across as blanket dehumanization of political opponents. We saw it with Trump in the US, and it can happen just as destructively from the left. I'd prefer a leader who unites people.
She shouldn't have said it, that's fair enough because it's not good politics, even if justified (see Hilary Clinton and her deplorables, which would be a better comparison). But the comparison to Trump is Bobbins.
That seems a bit harsh to me, but she can't be fired anyway, Deputy Leader is an elected position (see Tom Watson and Corbyn).
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Presumably there were also journalists in attendance, and that is how we know.monkey wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:53 pm
She was speaking to small room of Labour activists. The only reason you heard about the meeting is because she said "scum". When Trump insults people, it's to Rallies of 1000s, in front of international media, with much of that guaranteed to give positive coverage. It's not the same at all. Did you hear her call Tories scum during her conference speech, or in PMQs the other day? No, because Trump is orders of magnitude worse.
She shouldn't have said it, that's fair enough because it's not good politics, even if justified (see Hilary Clinton and her deplorables, which would be a better comparison). But the comparison to Trump is Bobbins.
I'm not convinced that it becomes any less worrying because she didn't realise we would find out.
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It's less worrying because of the scale and context.sheldrake wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 6:10 pmPresumably there were also journalists in attendance, and that is how we know.monkey wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 5:53 pm
She was speaking to small room of Labour activists. The only reason you heard about the meeting is because she said "scum". When Trump insults people, it's to Rallies of 1000s, in front of international media, with much of that guaranteed to give positive coverage. It's not the same at all. Did you hear her call Tories scum during her conference speech, or in PMQs the other day? No, because Trump is orders of magnitude worse.
She shouldn't have said it, that's fair enough because it's not good politics, even if justified (see Hilary Clinton and her deplorables, which would be a better comparison). But the comparison to Trump is Bobbins.
I'm not convinced that it becomes any less worrying because she didn't realise we would find out.
Re: Angela Rayner
maybe she was talking about actual Tory Scum, you know, the proper noun ones.
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