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Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:42 am
by lpm
Complete shock! Never seen women winning these things before. Is the male domination finally ending?
The BBC is leading with a lovely photo of the three women hugging each other. They certainly look happy to win.
Haven't had time to read the actual article yet.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-58787438
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:48 am
by purplehaze
So sweet. Aren't they just lovely.
I think I may be smiling for the rest of the day.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:04 pm
by Fishnut
That's a Getty stock photo. The winners of the prize are David Julius and Ardem Patapoutian, both men. Their research is on "how our bodies convert physical sensations into electrical messages in the nervous system" and the BBC has chosen to illustrate this with women hugging because they "discovered how our bodies feel the warmth of the sun or the hug of a loved one". Tenuous? Most definitely.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:05 pm
by lpm
Oh.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:06 pm
by purplehaze
purplehaze wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 11:48 am
So sweet. Aren't they just lovely.
I think I may be smiling for the rest of the day.
Sarcasm alert if anyone is in doubt.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:09 pm
by Stephanie
Fishnut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:04 pm
That's a Getty stock photo. The winners of the prize are David Julius and Ardem Patapoutian, both men. Their research is on "how our bodies convert physical sensations into electrical messages in the nervous system" and the BBC has chosen to illustrate this with women hugging because they "discovered how our bodies feel the warmth of the sun or the hug of a loved one". Tenuous? Most definitely.
i don't know for sure, but i assume that's why lpm started the thread?
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:13 pm
by Fishnut
Stephanie wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:09 pm
Fishnut wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:04 pm
That's a Getty stock photo. The winners of the prize are David Julius and Ardem Patapoutian, both men. Their research is on "how our bodies convert physical sensations into electrical messages in the nervous system" and the BBC has chosen to illustrate this with women hugging because they "discovered how our bodies feel the warmth of the sun or the hug of a loved one". Tenuous? Most definitely.
i don't know for sure, but i assume that's why lpm started the thread?
I thought as much but given people's tendencies to not follow links I thought I'd be explicit in what was going on.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:13 pm
by sheldrake
How do you know David and Ardem aren't women?
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:21 pm
by plodder
sheldrake wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:13 pm
How do you know David and Ardem aren't women?
Can't see any preferred pronoun info on their biogs. That's the usual way.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:34 pm
by sheldrake
I apologise, I’m being forcecious and unkind.I will keep that in The Pit
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:04 pm
by dyqik
plodder wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:21 pm
sheldrake wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 12:13 pm
How do you know David and Ardem aren't women?
Can't see any preferred pronoun info on their biogs. That's the usual way.
The Washington Post uses He for David, and will likely have checked.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 1:14 pm
by bmforre
From the awarding authority.
Yes, both winners are males.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:25 pm
by Grumble
Literature or Peace?
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:35 pm
by jimbob
Marie Curie was rather well-respected
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:42 pm
by Boustrophedon
jimbob wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:35 pm
Marie Curie was rather well-respected
Twice.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:53 pm
by Gfamily
Boustrophedon wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 8:42 pm
jimbob wrote: ↑Mon Oct 04, 2021 6:35 pm
Marie Curie was rather well-respected
Twice.
High achieving family
Mum and Dad won (mum twice), and two of their three children won as well. The husband of the third child accepted the Nobel prize on behalf of Unicef - which was nice.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 04, 2021 9:00 pm
by Woodchopper
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Tue Oct 05, 2021 11:33 am
by lpm
Hang on a sec, I'll just go and check which women won the physics one, be right back.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:18 am
by lpm
Chemistry day.
My hopes are high.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2021 10:33 am
by headshot
You should all have known LPM was trolling the minute they posted a link...
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:51 pm
by lpm
I've missed a few days in which, no doubt, hundreds of women won.
Chemistry - nope
Literature - nope
Economics - nope
Peace - OH MY GOD DO MY EYES DECEIVE ME
Final score: 12-1.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:33 pm
by IvanV
lpm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:51 pm
Economics - nope
Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.
So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:45 pm
by plodder
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:59 pm
by monkey
IvanV wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 2:33 pm
lpm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 1:51 pm
Economics - nope
Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.
So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.
Physics would be close to 100:1 by that count wouldn't it?
Estimated from - 115 prizes (1901 to 2021 minus 6 years not given), only 1.33 gone to women, because I think they only got 1/3 each. Hope I remembered the numbers correctly.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:11 pm
by IvanV
monkey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:59 pm
Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.
So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.
Physics would be close to 100:1 by that count wouldn't it?
Estimated from - 115 prizes (1901 to 2021 minus 6 years not given), only 1.33 gone to women, because I think they only got 1/3 each. Hope I remembered the numbers correctly.
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OK. I read some paper that claimed that Economics prizes were the most biased against women, doing some complicated stats. But it seems not borne out by this simple metric.