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Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:11 pm
by IvanV
IvanV wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:11 pm
monkey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:59 pm
Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.
So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.
Physics would be close to 100:1 by that count wouldn't it?
Estimated from - 115 prizes (1901 to 2021 minus 6 years not given), only 1.33 gone to women, because I think they only got 1/3 each. Hope I remembered the numbers correctly.
OK. I read some paper that claimed that Economics prizes were the most biased against women, doing some complicated stats. But it seems not borne out by this simple metric.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:13 pm
by plodder
lol, that’s economists for you
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:22 pm
by monkey
IvanV wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:11 pm
monkey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 3:59 pm
Economics Nobels are the most male-dominated of the lot. The prize has been awarded ever year begining in 1969. The first female laureate was Elinor Ostrom, who got half a prize in 2009. Then Esther Duflo got 1/3 of a prize in 2019 - her husband Abhijit Banerjee also got a 1/3 of the prize that year.
So far, it's men 52.17 prizes, women 0.83 prizes, a ratio of 62.6 : 1.
Physics would be close to 100:1 by that count wouldn't it?
Estimated from - 115 prizes (1901 to 2021 minus 6 years not given), only 1.33 gone to women, because I think they only got 1/3 each. Hope I remembered the numbers correctly.
OK. I read some paper that claimed that Economics prizes were the most biased against women, doing some complicated stats. But it seems not borne out by this simple metric.
The problem with this metric is that you can't tell whether it is the prize giving that is sexist, or the field in general, or both. Woodchopper's link above looked into that, was that the paper? It had stats in it.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:05 pm
by lpm
I do this thread most years. In one form or another. It never fails. That's good enough stats for me.
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:29 pm
by Grumble
lpm wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 5:05 pm
I do this thread most years. In one form or another. It never fails. That's good enough stats for me.
Especially galling this year because there was a perfectly good candidate female scientist who could have shared the physics prize for her work on atmospheric science, which would have gone nicely with the men who won for modelling climate. Discussed on Inside Science here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m00108j0
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 7:31 pm
by plodder
Do the committee members change? What’s the selection process?
Re: Women win Nobel Prize!!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2021 9:32 pm
by IvanV
monkey wrote: ↑Mon Oct 11, 2021 4:22 pm
The problem with this metric is that you can't tell whether it is the prize giving that is sexist, or the field in general, or both. Woodchopper's link above looked into that, was that the paper? It had stats in it.
You're absolutely right, and you've reminded me what it was I read, it was the paper Woodchopper cited.