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Re: Brexit benefits

Post by dyqik » Thu Jan 06, 2022 1:49 pm

TimW wrote:
Thu Jan 06, 2022 10:34 am
No, it's in the news that we can also scrap VAT on household energy bills.
Boris the lying fascist wrote: When we Vote Leave, we will be able to scrap this unfair and damaging tax.
You - Sun readers - will be able to vote for the people who make these crucial rules instead of watching politicians promise things they cannot deliver.
Remind me which party it is that brought in the last few VAT increases?

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Re: Brexit benefits

Post by tom p » Thu Jan 06, 2022 2:12 pm

Lew Dolby wrote:
Tue Jan 04, 2022 4:28 pm
So the greatest benefits they can come up with are: blue passports; marking goods for sale in lb and oz; crowns marked on beer glasses. All of which we were free to do as members of the EU. Pity they didn't define victory as such before the vote.
The BBC has finally grown a collective corporate pair and called out a teeny bit of brexit b.llsh.t as the lies that they are. Including the crown claim.
Just a shame they didn't call out the b.llsh.t 15 years ago & just ran with yet another story based on anti-eu claims by lying c.nts.
Expect vicious reprisals

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Re: Brexit benefits

Post by IvanV » Thu Jan 06, 2022 4:34 pm

I have just taken a delivery of package of a selection of teas direct from China, and I didn't have to pay import VAT on it. If we were still in the EU, then since last July, I would have been stung for a customs bill covering import VAT and an admin fee to be permitted to received the package. I know it isn't terribly usual behaviour to buy tea direct from China. But a lot of the tea I like to drink is Funny Stuff that is not available here, so I buy it direct from a Chinese supplier, Yunnan Sourcing. It is also a lot cheaper for anything that is available here, especially when I buy it in quantities like 1kg, as I do for our main tea. Yunnan Sourcing is actually run by an American with a Chinese wife, and he has set it up to supply high quality Chinese teas to international customers. Unfortunately because of the reduction in air services out of China, the last packet took about 10 weeks to come instead of the usual 2 weeks.

This is actually a 2-way issue, good on one side, bad on the other. Being able to continue receiving the tea I regularly buy from China without some admin and tax fee demanded to receive them is the good bit. The bad bit is that now when we attempt to send a small gift from Britain to the EU, like my wife sending birthday and christmas gifts to her family in Czech, then they get stung for a customs fee to receive the packet. She recently included a few sweets in a birthday card packet, worth about £5, and the relative had to pay £10 to receive them, which was probably less than £1 tax and the rest customs admin fee.

The EU put in place a rule requiring import VAT to be charged on all imports from outside the EU. I think it has to be charged at at least the standard rate, even if the goods are in a class that would normally benefit from a lower or zero rate. This is allegedly to protect EU e-sellers from what was perceived as unfair competition from China, etc. I think there is something about international postal rules that gives Chinese suppliers an unfair advantage. If the EU seller has not registered for VAT with the country of import, or with an EU-based e-selling platform that collects VAT for the relevant coutnry, so that they can charge it to the customer at time of sale and remit it, then the customer gets a bill from customs, plus an admin charge, to receive it.

Tea is zero rated for VAT in Britain, and no duty either. So as previously, Britain not adhering to this new rule, I can just take delivery of the tea without any customs charges.

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Re: Brexit benefits

Post by Bird on a Fire » Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:08 pm

Quoting myself on the rewilding thread:
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Fri Jan 07, 2022 11:01 pm
Farm payments for rewilding! ... ewild-land
Bids are being invited for 10-15 pilot projects, each covering at least 500 hectares and up to 5,000 hectares, to a total of approximately 10,000 hectares in the first two-year phase – about 10 times the size of Richmond Park in London. These pilots could involve full rewilding or other forms of management that focus on species recovery and wildlife habitats.

Rare fauna such as sand lizards, water voles and curlews will be targeted, with the aim of improving the status of about half of the most threatened species in England.

The exact funding has not been disclosed, as bids will be compared to determine value for money before a final decision on which should go ahead is made this summer. However, the total amount available for such schemes is expected to reach £700m to £800m a year by 2028. By 2042, the government aims to have up to 300,000 hectares of England covered by such “landscape recovery” projects – an area roughly the size of Lancashire.
It's early stages, not much money and the devil will be in the details. But this is potentially very good news for the British countryside, as the current farming model doesn't really work for anyone.
Replacing CAP with something better is a genuine (easy) win.

The EU's system hands huge wodges of public money to rural landowners and incentivises the wholesale destruction of nature. The intensiveness of UK agriculture is one of the main drivers of the country's catastrophic loss of biodiversity.

The agri-environment schemes within CAP basically don't work, and previously attempts to design additional measures were (at least perceived as) at risk of falling foul of the EU's state aid rules.

The UK's new fishing rules also seem more sustainable than the CFP (which is also sh.t).

So at least so far, I'm surprised to find myself noting that Brexit could actually turn out to be good news for Britain's actual sunlit uplands.
You can shove your climate crisis up your arse!

Take thy beak from out my heart, and take thy form from off my door.

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