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Posted: **Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:21 pm**

Are there any? Discuss here.

Posted: **Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:30 pm**

Getting some French people to print us some nice shiny blue passports?

Posted: **Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:42 pm**

James O'Brian, Michael Heseltine, Jon Bercow, Bob Geldof all outed as the deeply unpleasant loonies they are.

Posted: **Thu Oct 07, 2021 5:44 pm**

sheldrake wrote: ↑
Thu Oct 07, 2021 3:42 pm
James O'Brian, Michael Heseltine, Jon Bercow, Bob Geldof all outed as the deeply unpleasant loonies they are.

Laurence... Nigel..... oh, forget it. Life's too short

Posted: **Thu Oct 07, 2021 11:26 pm**

And in other news the sh.t Creek Paddle Company is doing really well.

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:03 am**

If the paperwork to move goods across borders isn't really onerous, what's all the fuss about sending stuff to NI all about ?

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:05 am**

Lew Dolby wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:03 am
If the paperwork to move goods across borders isn't really onerous, what's all the fuss about sending stuff to NI all about ?

It's an internal border within the UK, affecting businesses that never had to think about exporting before. The symbolic message to Northern Irish unionists that they are 'not fully part of the UK' is very unwelcome. It does need sorting out.

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:52 am**

sheldrake wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:05 am

Lew Dolby wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:03 am
If the paperwork to move goods across borders isn't really onerous, what's all the fuss about sending stuff to NI all about ?
It's an internal border within the UK, affecting businesses that never had to think about exporting before. The symbolic message to Northern Irish unionists that they are 'not fully part of the UK' is very unwelcome. It does need sorting out.

NI women who couldn't get abortions have known that for years and so have meat importers who were doing checks at the ports for years. If it is symbolic now, why wasn't it during the foot and mouth years? Why isn't it for women getting abortions?

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:53 am**

temptar wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:52 am

NI women who couldn't get abortions have known that for years and so have meat importers who were doing checks at the ports for years. If it is symbolic now, why wasn't it during the foot and mouth years? Why isn't it for women getting abortions?

You make good points, I only know what unionists themselves have said about it in public. I don't have any personal ties to NI unionists.

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:47 am**

sheldrake wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:53 am

temptar wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:52 am

NI women who couldn't get abortions have known that for years and so have meat importers who were doing checks at the ports for years. If it is symbolic now, why wasn't it during the foot and mouth years? Why isn't it for women getting abortions?
You make good points, I only know what unionists themselves have said about it in public. I don't have any personal ties to NI unionists.

We watch, impressed, as sheldrake discovers that politics in NI is full of lunatics.

"Hmm" he thinks to himself. "This might complicate the simple border checks we have in mind. Best get someone to look into this a little more".

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:59 am**

plodder wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 10:47 am

We watch, impressed, as sheldrake discovers that politics in NI is full of lunatics.

"Hmm" he thinks to himself. "This might complicate the simple border checks we have in mind. Best get someone to look into this a little more".

I do think there are solutions, and am more optimistic than you, but I've never thought of the situation in NI as a 'benefit' so I would love to debate this with you more in the consequences thread. Is that fair?

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 11:24 am**

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:33 pm**

sheldrake wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:53 am

temptar wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:52 am

NI women who couldn't get abortions have known that for years and so have meat importers who were doing checks at the ports for years. If it is symbolic now, why wasn't it during the foot and mouth years? Why isn't it for women getting abortions?
You make good points, I only know what unionists themselves have said about it in public. I don't have any personal ties to NI unionists.

If you are only listening to the DUP, then you are inadequately informed.

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 3:04 pm**

temptar wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 2:33 pm

sheldrake wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:53 am

temptar wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 9:52 am

NI women who couldn't get abortions have known that for years and so have meat importers who were doing checks at the ports for years. If it is symbolic now, why wasn't it during the foot and mouth years? Why isn't it for women getting abortions?
You make good points, I only know what unionists themselves have said about it in public. I don't have any personal ties to NI unionists.
If you are only listening to the DUP, then you are inadequately informed.

Inadequately informed about what unionists are cross about, or inadequately informed about what you think they should be cross about?

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:33 pm**

And the negotiations over Northern Ireland are starting to yield a bit of fruit

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eland-deal

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:25 pm**

sheldrake wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 6:33 pm
And the negotiations over Northern Ireland are starting to yield a bit of fruit

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eland-deal

Only problem is we soon won't have any sausages to sell them

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:26 pm**

Richmond Sausages are people!

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:52 pm**

They are also owned by Kerry Foods.

Posted: **Fri Oct 08, 2021 8:04 pm**

Maybe they helped sweet-talk some commissioners. People are usually willing to be pragmatic where money is involved.

Posted: **Sat Oct 09, 2021 7:11 am**

Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑
Fri Oct 08, 2021 7:26 pm
Richmond Sausages are people!

I doubt it. People would taste better.

Posted: **Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:19 am**

There is the great free trade deal with Australia.

Posted: **Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:22 am**

Chris Preston wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:19 am
There is the great free trade deal with Australia.

Is that the one where you sell us your carbons at a discounted rate?

Posted: **Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:58 am**

It is. We'll be doing emissions trading with Canada too, I think.

Posted: **Mon Oct 11, 2021 8:33 am**

plodder wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:22 am

Chris Preston wrote: ↑
Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:19 am
There is the great free trade deal with Australia.
Is that the one where you sell us your carbons at a discounted rate?

I think we pay for them in tired, depressed cricketers.

Posted: **Wed Oct 20, 2021 11:38 pm**

Trade deal with NZ https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-a ... ew-zealand

Not a massive amount of money, but their wines will cost less

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