Lebanon is running on fumes

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Lebanon is running on fumes

Post by sheldrake » Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:23 pm

Complete loss of electrical power because both main power stations are out of diesel. f.cking hell.

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Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm

They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
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Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Post by sTeamTraen » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:32 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
It's not clear where they would put the solar farms. Lebanon has the third-highest population density in the world among non-microstates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... on_density
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Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Post by sheldrake » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:46 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
It's sunnier than the UK but perhaps the hilly/mountainous terrain is a problem setting up big arrays of panels?

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Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Post by dyqik » Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:53 pm

sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:32 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
It's not clear where they would put the solar farms. Lebanon has the third-highest population density in the world among non-microstates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... on_density
And solar farms are fairly vulnerable to terrorist and state attack. From whatever the f.ck is going on in Syria now, or Israel in retaliation to whatever.

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Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Post by lpm » Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:00 pm

Tip: invest in the transition to distributed, non-brittle energy while you're prospering.
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Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Post by bjn » Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:04 am

sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:32 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
It's not clear where they would put the solar farms. Lebanon has the third-highest population density in the world among non-microstates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... on_density
Roofs would be a start.

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Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Post by Woodchopper » Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:35 am

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
Yes, though a country that can’t afford to import fuel for generators will also struggle to invest in solar farms.

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Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Post by Woodchopper » Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:46 am

bjn wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:04 am
sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:32 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
It's not clear where they would put the solar farms. Lebanon has the third-highest population density in the world among non-microstates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... on_density
Roofs would be a start.
They’re doing that already privately. However, most of the population lives in apartments so there isn’t much roof space per person

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Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Post by sTeamTraen » Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:24 am

bjn wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:04 am
Roofs would be a start.
In hot countries, a common use of solar power on your roof is a non-electrical panel to heat a tank of water. It's probably thermodynamically more efficient than converting the solar energy to electricity, especially if you then use the electricity to make hot water,

But you can't run an entire modern economy on the energy that comes from the solar panels that will fit on the roof of apartment buildings. Indeed, for some height of the building, you can't even run all of the apartments in it on that amount of electricity.
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