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Lebanon is running on fumes

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 9:23 pm
by sheldrake
Complete loss of electrical power because both main power stations are out of diesel. f.cking hell.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2021/10/ ... wer-plants

Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
by Bird on a Fire
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.

Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:32 pm
by sTeamTraen
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
It's not clear where they would put the solar farms. Lebanon has the third-highest population density in the world among non-microstates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... on_density

Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:46 pm
by sheldrake
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
It's sunnier than the UK but perhaps the hilly/mountainous terrain is a problem setting up big arrays of panels?

Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:53 pm
by dyqik
sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:32 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
It's not clear where they would put the solar farms. Lebanon has the third-highest population density in the world among non-microstates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... on_density
And solar farms are fairly vulnerable to terrorist and state attack. From whatever the f.ck is going on in Syria now, or Israel in retaliation to whatever.

Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2021 11:00 pm
by lpm
Tip: invest in the transition to distributed, non-brittle energy while you're prospering.

Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:04 am
by bjn
sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:32 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
It's not clear where they would put the solar farms. Lebanon has the third-highest population density in the world among non-microstates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... on_density
Roofs would be a start.

Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:35 am
by Woodchopper
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
Yes, though a country that can’t afford to import fuel for generators will also struggle to invest in solar farms.

Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 5:46 am
by Woodchopper
bjn wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:04 am
sTeamTraen wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:32 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Sat Oct 09, 2021 10:24 pm
They seem like the kind of place that could be meeting a huge chunk of demand with solar alone.
It's not clear where they would put the solar farms. Lebanon has the third-highest population density in the world among non-microstates. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... on_density
Roofs would be a start.
They’re doing that already privately. However, most of the population lives in apartments so there isn’t much roof space per person

Re: Lebanon is running on fumes

Posted: Sun Oct 10, 2021 9:24 am
by sTeamTraen
bjn wrote:
Sun Oct 10, 2021 4:04 am
Roofs would be a start.
In hot countries, a common use of solar power on your roof is a non-electrical panel to heat a tank of water. It's probably thermodynamically more efficient than converting the solar energy to electricity, especially if you then use the electricity to make hot water,

But you can't run an entire modern economy on the energy that comes from the solar panels that will fit on the roof of apartment buildings. Indeed, for some height of the building, you can't even run all of the apartments in it on that amount of electricity.