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Re: God save the King

Post by Bird on a Fire » Sat Oct 23, 2021 1:04 am

Troubled Joe wrote:
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plodder wrote:
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And in all seriousness - there is clearly an argument to be made that continuing the monarchy under Charles would be a disaster, in terms of our governance as a country, our international standing, and the habit he has developed over the year of interfering behind the scenes to his own advantage. He's going to be a dreadful head of state, far worse than someone like Trump because he has the job for life.

There is, as far as I understand it, no legal mechanism (short of something pretty close to a revolution) that would allow the forced dissolution of the monarchy - church and state and the monarchy are so intertwined and invested in by the status quo that it would likely result in significant bloodshed, and the Monarch could simply refuse to pass any legislation in any case.

So how else can we stop the c.nt?
I suspect and/or hope when/if he becomes the big cheese it will hasten the end of the monarchy in its present form as given his elevated position he would not be able to interfere unseen anything like as easily. He’s unlikely to stop and hopefully people won’t like what they see.
I had much more faith in this kind of accelerationism in, say, 2015.

The English especially seem relatively content to eat enormous quantities of sh.t.
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Re: God save the King

Post by TopBadger » Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:04 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
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Must say I’m quite fond of Queenie.
I thought Queenie was great too, but then she just stopped posting and I'm not sure why... the old place wasn't the same without her...

Oh, you meant the actual Queen! Yeah, I'm in no rush to replace her maj.
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Re: God save the King

Post by dyqik » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:15 am

TopBadger wrote:
Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:04 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 7:01 pm
Must say I’m quite fond of Queenie.
I thought Queenie was great too, but then she just stopped posting and I'm not sure why... the old place wasn't the same without her...

Oh, you meant the actual Queen! Yeah, I'm in no rush to replace her maj.
I agree, unless Miranda Richardson is available for the gig.

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Re: God save the King

Post by Tessa K » Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:33 am

David Attenborough for king! (shame he's so old now)

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Re: God save the King

Post by dyqik » Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:57 pm

Tessa K wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:33 am
David Attenborough for king! (shame he's so old now)
No, because he'd bring far too much gravity to what is a ridiculous position.

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Re: God save the King

Post by Tessa K » Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:45 pm

dyqik wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:57 pm
Tessa K wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:33 am
David Attenborough for king! (shame he's so old now)
No, because he'd bring far too much gravity to what is a ridiculous position.

Oh he'd change it all into something way better.

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Re: God save the King

Post by jimbob » Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:01 pm

dyqik wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 1:57 pm
Tessa K wrote:
Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:33 am
David Attenborough for king! (shame he's so old now)
No, because he'd bring far too much gravity to what is a ridiculous position.
Yup, I used to want Edward to be monarch as he would bring the appropriate dignity to the position.

Now I'd like Andrew
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Re: God save the King

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Mon Oct 25, 2021 8:07 am

I've just remembered I had a dream last night in which Prince Andrew scored a winning goal and none of his team-mates knew whether to celebrate with him or not
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Re: God save the King

Post by Tessa K » Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:36 am

Rishi Sunak is starting to sound more and more like Tony Blair (voice, not content). Shut your eyes and listen.

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Re: God save the King

Post by Sciolus » Tue Oct 26, 2021 8:52 pm

Not going to COP, her biggest engagement in years. Not remotely surprising at her age; I'm astonished she's (reportedly) still doing any work at all. But declines can be quite quick.

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Re: God save the King

Post by Bird on a Fire » Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:34 am

Tessa K wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:36 am
Rishi Sunak is starting to sound more and more like Tony Blair (voice, not content). Shut your eyes and listen.
This is bad news, because soon I won't know whether it's him, Kier Starmer or Rory Bremner on the radio.
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Re: God save the King

Post by Martin Y » Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:05 pm

IvanV wrote:
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... it is sometimes speculated that he might choose a different regnal name, on the suggestion that Charles is an unpropitious name for an English king. One had his head chopped off. The other had no legitimate children, resulting in the throne passing to the King of Scotland. And there was also "Bonnie Prince" Charles Edward Stuart who was a failure in his attempt to get the throne.
It was Elizabeth who was succeeded by a king of Scotland; James VI, who became James I. Charles II was succeeded by his brother James II.
But yes, the track record of Charles's is not terrific.

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Re: God save the King

Post by Cardinal Fang » Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:30 pm

Martin Y wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:05 pm
IvanV wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:04 pm
... it is sometimes speculated that he might choose a different regnal name, on the suggestion that Charles is an unpropitious name for an English king. One had his head chopped off. The other had no legitimate children, resulting in the throne passing to the King of Scotland. And there was also "Bonnie Prince" Charles Edward Stuart who was a failure in his attempt to get the throne.
It was Elizabeth who was succeeded by a king of Scotland; James VI, who became James I. Charles II was succeeded by his brother James II.
But yes, the track record of Charles's is not terrific.
Weird factoid. Because the UK monarch is now the ruler of both England and Scotland, were there to be another King James, they wouldn't be James III, they would be James VIII, because they would have to take into account the James's in the Scottish line (James VII is who we know as James II)

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Re: God save the King

Post by nezumi » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:41 pm

Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:34 am
Tessa K wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:36 am
Rishi Sunak is starting to sound more and more like Tony Blair (voice, not content). Shut your eyes and listen.
This is bad news, because soon I won't know whether it's him, Kier Starmer or Rory Bremner on the radio.
It truly is the end of days.
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Re: God save the King

Post by dyqik » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:42 pm

nezumi wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:41 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:34 am
Tessa K wrote:
Mon Oct 25, 2021 9:36 am
Rishi Sunak is starting to sound more and more like Tony Blair (voice, not content). Shut your eyes and listen.
This is bad news, because soon I won't know whether it's him, Kier Starmer or Rory Bremner on the radio.
It truly is the end of days.
Surely you can never be sure that it isn't Rory Bremner on the radio?

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Re: God save the King

Post by nezumi » Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:48 pm

dyqik wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:42 pm
nezumi wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:41 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 12:34 am


This is bad news, because soon I won't know whether it's him, Kier Starmer or Rory Bremner on the radio.
It truly is the end of days.
Surely you can never be sure that it isn't Rory Bremner on the radio?
You can never be sure Rory Bremner isn't impersonating your closest relatives.
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Re: God save the King

Post by Tessa K » Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:50 am

nezumi wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:48 pm
dyqik wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:42 pm
nezumi wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 7:41 pm


It truly is the end of days.
Surely you can never be sure that it isn't Rory Bremner on the radio?
You can never be sure Rory Bremner isn't impersonating your closest relatives.
Unless it's a woman. I've never heard him do a convincing Queen or Thatcher back in the day. Anyone remember Steve Nallon? His Thatcher was great.

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Re: God save the King

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:01 am

Cardinal Fang wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 6:30 pm
Martin Y wrote:
Wed Oct 27, 2021 4:05 pm
IvanV wrote:
Wed Oct 20, 2021 8:04 pm
... it is sometimes speculated that he might choose a different regnal name, on the suggestion that Charles is an unpropitious name for an English king. One had his head chopped off. The other had no legitimate children, resulting in the throne passing to the King of Scotland. And there was also "Bonnie Prince" Charles Edward Stuart who was a failure in his attempt to get the throne.
It was Elizabeth who was succeeded by a king of Scotland; James VI, who became James I. Charles II was succeeded by his brother James II.
But yes, the track record of Charles's is not terrific.
Weird factoid. Because the UK monarch is now the ruler of both England and Scotland, were there to be another King James, they wouldn't be James III, they would be James VIII, because they would have to take into account the James's in the Scottish line (James VII is who we know as James II)

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Crect. And Robert IV, David III, etc. It's a shame the monarchs have been trapped in an Edward/William/George cycle for so long. It'd be good to see some other names come in.
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Re: God save the King

Post by Gfamily » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:12 am

After the second Elizabethan monarchy, he might want to go for the second Arthurian one. And we can all laugh.
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Re: God save the King

Post by plodder » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:54 am

El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:01 am
Crect. And Robert IV, David III, etc. It's a shame the monarchs have been trapped in an Edward/William/George cycle for so long. It'd be good to see some other names come in.
It would be dreadful, because to do that we'd have postponed our overthrow of these stinkbags by a generation for every new fun name.

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Re: God save the King

Post by Matatouille » Thu Oct 28, 2021 10:59 am

Would totally be worth it for a Nebuchadnezzar I.

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Re: God save the King

Post by Tessa K » Thu Oct 28, 2021 11:56 am

Or we could copy the ninth century king of West Francia and go for Charles the Bald.

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Re: God save the King

Post by plodder » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:08 pm

Tessa K wrote:
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Or we could copy the ninth century king of West Francia and go for Charles the Bald.
Charles the Over-ready?

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Re: God save the King

Post by Martin Y » Thu Oct 28, 2021 12:46 pm

Cnut.

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Re: God save the King

Post by Imrael » Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:31 pm

Or we could copy the ninth century king of West Francia and go for Charles the Bald.
There was also a Burgundian Charles the Bold, who was more bold than successful as I remember, and eventually fatally annoyed the Swiss.

Isnt there a sort-of tradition of a monarch being able to pick a new name on ascending the throne, so Charles could opt for Alfred the 2nd in theory?

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