Benefits of Brexit for Britain

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Re: Benefits of Brexit for Britain

Post by sheldrake » Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:37 pm

plodder wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 5:30 pm
£20M won’t get you much of a deepwater quay, by the way
Yeah, I assume thats just a contribution and they'll need to raise investment from the private sector.

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Re: Benefits of Brexit for Britain

Post by Woodchopper » Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:50 pm

sheldrake wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:44 pm
Woodchopper wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:38 pm
sheldrake wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 4:22 pm
A new free port opened in Teeside https://www.gov.uk/government/news/tees ... r-business

How is this a benefit of Brexit? Freeports have existed in the UK since the 1980s.
As an EU member You cant create new ones without the approval of the EU commission so even if allowed the whole process would’ve taken much longer and probably involved some horse trading. This is state aid.
Ok so the benefit is that it was set up quicker. I assume that there may be some more flexibility in the tax arrangements as well.

We’ll have to see whether the free port actually creates jobs that wouldn’t have existed anyway. The government shut the earlier ones down in 2012 as they weren’t viewed as being successful.

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Re: Benefits of Brexit for Britain

Post by sheldrake » Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:11 pm

Woodchopper wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:50 pm
We’ll have to see whether the free port actually creates jobs that wouldn’t have existed anyway. The government shut the earlier ones down in 2012 as they weren’t viewed as being successful.
You may find this bit of Hansard interesting https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2 ... /Freeports

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Re: Benefits of Brexit for Britain

Post by plodder » Sun Nov 21, 2021 9:58 am

sheldrake wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 7:11 pm
Woodchopper wrote:
Sat Nov 20, 2021 6:50 pm
We’ll have to see whether the free port actually creates jobs that wouldn’t have existed anyway. The government shut the earlier ones down in 2012 as they weren’t viewed as being successful.
You may find this bit of Hansard interesting https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2 ... /Freeports
That’s more than a bit. Which bit of the bit?

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Re: Benefits of Brexit for Britain

Post by Lew Dolby » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:21 am

Is Hansard a reliable record of facts ? AIUI it's a record of what politicians say and that's not usually taken a very reliable.
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Re: Benefits of Brexit for Britain

Post by sheldrake » Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:42 am

It names the consultancy used to project the claimed economic benefits, and says what they are. It could of course all be a ruse to divert public funds into some tory grandee’s bank account

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Re: Benefits of Brexit for Britain

Post by plodder » Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:56 pm

sheldrake wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:42 am
It names the consultancy used to project the claimed economic benefits, and says what they are. It could of course all be a ruse to divert public funds into some tory grandee’s bank account
sorry, what’s the point of this run around?

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Re: Benefits of Brexit for Britain

Post by sheldrake » Sun Nov 21, 2021 1:02 pm

plodder wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 12:56 pm
sheldrake wrote:
Sun Nov 21, 2021 10:42 am
It names the consultancy used to project the claimed economic benefits, and says what they are. It could of course all be a ruse to divert public funds into some tory grandee’s bank account
sorry, what’s the point of this run around?
People were unsure whether any jobs benefits would materialise so I've given the detail of the claimed benefits and the identity of the consultancy which produced the economic report they're from. You're welcome.

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