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Prof Susan Michie of University College London, a member of the government’s Covid-19 behavioural science team and the Independent Sage group of experts wrote:“In these circumstances, my advice would be to delay planning Christmas as long as possible,”

Brightonian wrote: ↑

Mon Nov 22, 2021 2:51 pm

We should postpone Christmas 2021, like Euro 2020. And 2022, 2023,..., however long it takes, and have them all one after each other. And then Roy Wood's wish will come true.

shpalman wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:00 am

Cancelling it entirely would be fine by me, I'd rather not have to visit miserable grey not-mask-wearing lazy-lying-stuffed-sack-of-sh.t-prime-minister plague island. However, I've already booked flights and airport parking.

Of course I'll have to do a day-2 test, to make sure I haven't contaminated your endemic covid by showing up covid-free, but as of the current rules I'll have to do a test less than 48 hours before arriving back in Italy if I want to avoid spending 5 days in self-isolation once I get back. It can be a lateral flow rather than a PCR as long as it's done with a swab, but self tests aren't accepted and this is a problem because the whole corrupt UK testing system is based on people testing themselves at home, taking a photo of it, and getting their guaranteed negative result certificate.

The asymptomatic testing sites near where I'll be are all closed so there's no way to get a non-self test,* and PCR tests have the issue that it's practically impossible to do the test, send it to them, and have them process it all with the 48 hour window. I paid >£200 a year ago to get a negative test certificate with a 24-hour turnaround, as if anybody cared.

* - unless I lie and say I have symptoms, but then if had symptoms I shouldn't really be going to any airports anyway.

shpalman wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:00 am

Cancelling it entirely would be fine by me, I'd rather not have to visit miserable grey not-mask-wearing lazy-lying-stuffed-sack-of-sh.t-prime-minister plague island. However, I've already booked flights and airport parking.

Of course I'll have to do a day-2 test, to make sure I haven't contaminated your endemic covid by showing up covid-free,

Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 26, 2021 1:03 pm

shpalman wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 26, 2021 11:00 am

Cancelling it entirely would be fine by me, I'd rather not have to visit miserable grey not-mask-wearing lazy-lying-stuffed-sack-of-sh.t-prime-minister plague island. However, I've already booked flights and airport parking.

Of course I'll have to do a day-2 test, to make sure I haven't contaminated your endemic covid by showing up covid-free,

Hahaha preach.

I'm in the same boat. I'm meant to be doing a month at my UK uni in January/Feb. My scholarship intends me to split my time 50:50, but I've not been there for nearly 2 years due obvious reasons, and I'm pretty sure that by January it'll all be locked down again.

lpm wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:52 pm

You can say by Christmas if you like, but you've already said by September, by October and by November.

Herainestold wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:17 pm

lpm wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:52 pm

You can say by Christmas if you like, but you've already said by September, by October and by November.

That was before new variant. Everything is different now.

We have no other options.

Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:05 pm

Will the new variant allow Johnson cover to bring in Plan B without it looking like a U turn?

shpalman wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:55 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:05 pm

Will the new variant allow Johnson cover to bring in Plan B without it looking like a U turn?

New UK Covid measures to be announced apparently. Not sure if they just mean more travel bans.

nezumi wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 27, 2021 8:07 am

Thankfully mine is Pink Floyd's Comfortably Numb.

Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 27, 2021 5:27 pm

shpalman wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:55 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑

Sat Nov 27, 2021 4:05 pm

Will the new variant allow Johnson cover to bring in Plan B without it looking like a U turn?

New UK Covid measures to be announced apparently. Not sure if they just mean more travel bans.

Masks back in retail and public transportation settings but judging by my most recent experience of both nobody will f.cking do anything. Buses and trains regularly have unmasked people coughing without even covering their f.cking mouths. I can’t see them changing their behaviour.

Herainestold wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 26, 2021 7:17 pm

lpm wrote: ↑

Fri Nov 26, 2021 6:52 pm

You can say by Christmas if you like, but you've already said by September, by October and by November.

That was before new variant. Everything is different now.

shpalman wrote: ↑

Sun Nov 28, 2021 2:59 pm

The PCR on day 2 does knacker things a bit - since I have MXP-STN booked for the 23rd it's entirely possible I'll be obliged to self isolate while I wait for the result until the 29th (the UK will get the 27th and 28th off as holidays since Christmas itself is over the weekend). Then I have STN-MXP booked for the 30th...

But it doesn't have to be on day 2 does it? It has to be "on or before". Could I get a PCR when I arrive at STN?

It seems like tests at STN can be booked up to a month in advance so that window is opening up now, I'll have a look tomorrow. I don't expect the day-2 test providers to have updated themselves yet regarding needing PCR instead of Lateral Flow.