TopBadger wrote: ↑
Mon May 09, 2022 9:01 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑
Mon May 09, 2022 7:53 pm
That's not what I got from his piece at all btw.
I got the first part but not the second from his piece.
Owen needs to realise that the voting public arent ready for Corbyn / Student Socialist levels of transformation. The first win for Labour is getting the Tories out and demonstrating some competence in government. They need to boil the frog.
No one expected Starmer to continue Corbynism, but he did campaign for leader pretty much as Corbyn Lite with competence. Instead we just got the competence. There's very little in the way of memorable policy coming out of Labour at the moment*, and no focus or theme to hang everything off of to help with that.
Jones is right that Labour need to do more in this regard. It's not just me and him, just about every commentator outside of the right wing press seem to be saying that - here's Freedland (not a Corbynite) doing it the other day:clicky
. He's being less hyperbolic and less optimistic about what could be achieved, but the underlying message of both is that to get a Labour government (even a minority one), they have to do more.
It's all very well talking about boiling frogs, but no frogs get boiled by just pointing out that your competitor can't even catch a frog and making out that you could boil a frog if you wanted to because you know how.
*There is some, but I bet most people can't remember what it is.