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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by monkey » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:40 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:12 pm
monkey wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:05 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:33 pm
Boris Johnson’s birthday party.

He’ll have to say he hadn’t been told the birthday cake wasn’t a filing cabinet or summat.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/bor ... nderstands
This story made me think this: clicky

Is this one he can plausibly get away with not knowing about beforehand, 'cos it was a surprise party?
Not really. Especially when he’s been saying guidelines have been followed for the last month
Only talking about the not knowing bit, which seemed important last week with party number x of n. Obviously hanging out at it still puts him in the wrong, and gives him extra to lie about.

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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by tenchboy » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:41 pm

dyqik wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:28 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:33 pm
Boris Johnson’s birthday party.

He’ll have to say he hadn’t been told the birthday cake wasn’t a filing cabinet or summat.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/bor ... nderstands
So, what are the chances that someone in charge of the treasury, which is heavily criticized by Lord Agnew here, leaked the party news to distract from this, because they are angling to replace Johnson?
It seems to be ITV again; as someone has said, it seems they've got tons of stuff and they are just letting it out one story at a time.
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Stranger Mouse » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:41 pm

dyqik wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:28 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:33 pm
Boris Johnson’s birthday party.

He’ll have to say he hadn’t been told the birthday cake wasn’t a filing cabinet or summat.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/bor ... nderstands
So, what are the chances that someone in charge of the treasury, which is heavily criticized by Lord Agnew here, leaked the party news to distract from this, because they are angling to replace Johnson?
I’m still trying to figure out how they are going to defend Lulu Lytle being there. Word is Sue Gray was already aware of the party.
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by monkey » Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:46 pm

dyqik wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:28 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 6:33 pm
Boris Johnson’s birthday party.

He’ll have to say he hadn’t been told the birthday cake wasn’t a filing cabinet or summat.

https://www.itv.com/news/2022-01-24/bor ... nderstands
So, what are the chances that someone in charge of the treasury, which is heavily criticized by Lord Agnew here, leaked the party news to distract from this, because they are angling to replace Johnson?
Maybe*, but I reckon there's a chance that it's to bog down Gray with work so she can't get her report out ;)

"Gray's nearly done? Can't have that. Leak the birthday one, that'll give us another week."



*Taking my tongue out of my cheek, this was one of my first thoughts. Lots of talk about scrapping the NI increase today as well, which won't look good for Sunak as soon as it hits payslips.

ETA: Written before stranger mouse's last post.

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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by raven » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:28 pm

dyqik wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:28 pm

So, what are the chances that someone in charge of the treasury, which is heavily criticized by Lord Agnew here, leaked the party news to distract from this, because they are angling to replace Johnson?
Good on Lord Agnew. I was beginning to think none of them gave a toss about the millions billions they spaffed up that particular wall.

(I can't get my head around that brand of Tory doublethink: Benefit clamaints lie to get money so we absolutely have to set up super punitive systems to stop that, but businesses wouldn't defraud us of a penny so we'll give out loans willy-nilly to anyone who applies.... Feckin' idiots.)

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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by bjn » Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:53 pm

raven wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:28 pm
dyqik wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:28 pm

So, what are the chances that someone in charge of the treasury, which is heavily criticized by Lord Agnew here, leaked the party news to distract from this, because they are angling to replace Johnson?
Good on Lord Agnew. I was beginning to think none of them gave a toss about the millions billions they spaffed up that particular wall.

(I can't get my head around that brand of Tory doublethink: Benefit clamaints lie to get money so we absolutely have to set up super punitive systems to stop that, but businesses wouldn't defraud us of a penny so we'll give out loans willy-nilly to anyone who applies.... Feckin' idiots.)
Yeahbut, one lot are work shy prolly scum who should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and the other is my chum; a fine chap of the right sort that I knew from Eton/the golf club/PPE at Oxford.

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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Little waster » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:04 pm

The Tories continue to dredge up creatures from the slime at the shallow end of their talent pool to defend Johnson.

Peter Bone’s turn tonight on Newsnight.

According to him nobody* cares about Johnson’s rulebreaking they are more concerned about the real important issues such as abolishing the BBC, banning the gayez and renaming August Bank Holiday Margaret Thatcher Day so the media** should stop going on about it.

Anyway Johnson invented the first COVID vaccine which has “saved billions of lives”. That last bit was a direct quote :shock:

With friends like that ...

*OK there was one but he used naughty words and was probably a Labour voter.

**presumably including all the rightwing outlets who refuse to miss out on the feeding frenzy. It’s almost as if they have a better clue what sells newspapers than this renowned quarterwit.
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by WFJ » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:12 pm

Little waster wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:04 pm
The Tories continue to dredge up creatures from the slime at the shallow end of their talent pool to defend Johnson.
If the only people Johnson can get to say nice things about him are Bone and Dorris he is f.cked.

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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by raven » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:17 pm

bjn wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:53 pm
raven wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:28 pm
dyqik wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:28 pm

So, what are the chances that someone in charge of the treasury, which is heavily criticized by Lord Agnew here, leaked the party news to distract from this, because they are angling to replace Johnson?
Good on Lord Agnew. I was beginning to think none of them gave a toss about the millions billions they spaffed up that particular wall.

(I can't get my head around that brand of Tory doublethink: Benefit clamaints lie to get money so we absolutely have to set up super punitive systems to stop that, but businesses wouldn't defraud us of a penny so we'll give out loans willy-nilly to anyone who applies.... Feckin' idiots.)
Yeahbut, one lot are work shy prolly scum who should pull themselves up by their bootstraps and the other is my chum; a fine chap of the right sort that I knew from Eton/the golf club/PPE at Oxford.
And that's why I can't get my head round it. I know what my mates are like.

(Besides, it wasn't really 'chums' defrauding the bounce back loan scheme. It was any chancer who thought they could get away with it, including organised crime networks.)

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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Little waster » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:34 pm

Little waster wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:04 pm

**presumably including all the rightwing outlets who refuse to miss out on the feeding frenzy. It’s almost as if they have a better clue what sells newspapers than this renowned quarterwit.
On that note, of the three newspapers featured in “Tomorrow’s Headlines” all three of them, the Sun, the Mail and the Mirror, are running the birthday party story on their front pages.
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Bird on a Fire » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:54 pm

raven wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 10:28 pm
(I can't get my head around that brand of Tory doublethink: Benefit clamaints lie to get money so we absolutely have to set up super punitive systems to stop that, but businesses wouldn't defraud us of a penny so we'll give out loans willy-nilly to anyone who applies.... Feckin' idiots.)
Everything right-wingers say is projection. They expect benefit recipients to be on the fiddle because they themselves are. Folks in charge of designing this system will have benefited from it.

Their general dog-eat-dog view of society is just extrapolating from their own selfishness. Must be a sad way to live, really.
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Gfamily » Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:00 am

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And the ratchet clicks once more
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Little waster » Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:36 am

Little waster wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:34 pm
Little waster wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:04 pm

**presumably including all the rightwing outlets who refuse to miss out on the feeding frenzy. It’s almost as if they have a better clue what sells newspapers than this renowned quarterwit.
On that note, of the three newspapers featured in “Tomorrow’s Headlines” all three of them, the Sun, the Mail and the Mirror, are running the birthday party story on their front pages.
Add to that the Times, the Guardian, the Indy, the Metro, the Telegraph, ...
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by nekomatic » Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:58 am

tenchboy wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:41 pm
It seems to be ITV again; as someone has said, it seems they've got tons of stuff and they are just letting it out one story at a time.
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by tenchboy » Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:46 am

nekomatic wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 8:58 am
tenchboy wrote:
Mon Jan 24, 2022 7:41 pm
It seems to be ITV again; as someone has said, it seems they've got tons of stuff and they are just letting it out one story at a time.
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The plot thickens!!!
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:47 am

Sue Gray investigation won’t be paused but report won’t be published until after the criminal investigation completed
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by TopBadger » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:06 am

Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:47 am
Sue Gray investigation won’t be paused but report won’t be published until after the criminal investigation completed
I expect the police can talk to Sue Gray about her findings thus far though... and then go and have conversations with the people she spoke to, but under caution this time?

Can BoJo survive this? A fine from the Met would provide a greater degree of 'guilt' than Gray's report, wouldn't it?
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:15 am

TopBadger wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:06 am
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 10:47 am
Sue Gray investigation won’t be paused but report won’t be published until after the criminal investigation completed
I expect the police can talk to Sue Gray about her findings thus far though... and then go and have conversations with the people she spoke to, but under caution this time?

Can BoJo survive this? A fine from the Met would provide a greater degree of 'guilt' than Gray's report, wouldn't it?
Apparently the investigation was opened as a result of information passed to the Met by Sue Gray
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by El Pollo Diablo » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:28 am

Gfamily wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 12:00 am
Gfamily wrote:
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And the ratchet clicks once more
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Opti » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:30 am

Remind me. Who is the police commander in charge of Metropolitan Police professional standards?
Time for a big fat one.

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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by jimbob » Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:34 am

Via Captain_Swoop on ISF.

They got the interior decorator from the other scandal to attend this scandal.
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:00 pm

It’s been reported that Johnson knew about the criminal investigation before his cabinet meeting today but didn’t tell them about it so they were amongst the last people in the country to find out
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Stranger Mouse » Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:05 pm

Stranger Mouse wrote:
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It’s been reported that Johnson knew about the criminal investigation before his cabinet meeting today but didn’t tell them about it so they were amongst the last people in the country to find out
Oh apparently all the cabinet are pissed off because they have to hand in their phones at the beginning of the meeting so when we saw confused ministers leaving 10 Downing Street this morning none of them knew what journalists were shouting at them about.
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by tenchboy » Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:27 pm

jimbob wrote:
Tue Jan 25, 2022 11:34 am
Via Captain_Swoop on ISF.

They got the interior decorator from the other scandal to attend this scandal.
Bringing your interior decorator along to a scandal is just sooo unnecessary.
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Post by Bird on a Fire » Tue Jan 25, 2022 1:38 pm

In the year 3000, a Futurama-style head-in-a-jar of PM Johnson will be found to have popped to Venus for a cocktail party during a planetary shutdown, and people will still be asking "Can Johnson survive this?"

It's like a Keith Richards shagged a cockroach (which, tbf, he may well have done).
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