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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:38 pm
by FlammableFlower
El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:05 pm
What I think is becoming more and more apparent to people is something I've been saying for a while - that Johnson is not a clever man. He is a stupid man.
I like this one

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:40 pm
by lpm
ojno wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:26 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:36 am
Amazing that 100 or so people have had this email for 18 months and it's only just now being leaked.
Gfamily wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:14 pm
and the timing is great so that the outrage from each of the earlier incidents has allowed to subside, before coming back even stronger.
It seems clear to me that no one who was there or involved in any way actually gave a sh.t. The evidence was merely filed away for later. Just in case.

The most likely explanation for this "drip, drip" that I can see is that the "grey men in grey suits" have decided that Johnson has outlived his usefulness, and are (tacitly) encouraging these leaks to happen in order that he is forced out.
Yep. What ojno says.

They've decided their interests would be better served by installing Sunak and have direct billionaire control, rather than carrying on with their "Boris" puppet.

Hence selective leaks against Truss, Gove and anyone else, while taking minimal counter hits from their leaks about Sunak.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:44 pm
by Gfamily
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:47 pm
by Woodchopper
FlammableFlower wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:38 pm
El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:05 pm
What I think is becoming more and more apparent to people is something I've been saying for a while - that Johnson is not a clever man. He is a stupid man.
I like this one
Well there's that, and he's profoundly lazy, so he doesn't get much use out of the brain he does have. He's also prone to risk taking, so probably enjoyed the thrill of the No 10 parties.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:56 pm
by Gfamily
Michael Fabricant tries to say "hey, it's not so bad'
Not linked, as - why would I do that ?
This perfect response.
Spoiler:

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 1:51 pm
by TimW
I just googled fabricant (isn't there a sci-fi species of that name?), and apparently
Google wrote:People also ask:
Who is the MP with the bad wig?

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:19 pm
by tenchboy
give me odds on, "no, no, no, silly, it wasn't a real email, it was just a joke email that one of the technicians wrote and sent out to everyone to test a mod he had just installed on the downing street email system"

Worth a flutter?

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:22 pm
by jimbob
Woodchopper wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:47 pm
FlammableFlower wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:38 pm
El Pollo Diablo wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:05 pm
What I think is becoming more and more apparent to people is something I've been saying for a while - that Johnson is not a clever man. He is a stupid man.
I like this one
Well there's that, and he's profoundly lazy, so he doesn't get much use out of the brain he does have. He's also prone to risk taking, so probably enjoyed the thrill of the No 10 parties.
Yup. The thrill of ignoring rules and letting people down seems to have been attractive to him since he was a kid.

I've said before that he has a persona of an amiable buffoon, when actually he's a ruthless and amoral buffoon.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:41 pm
by headshot
My MP argued it was a waste of time discussin this in parliament and the time would be better spent discussing the levelling up agenda. I Tweeted:

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:41 pm
by headshot
Michael Rosen also responded:

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:55 pm
by Bird on a Fire
Gfamily wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:14 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:36 am
Ruth Davidson just stuck the boot in on BBC news.

Amazing that 100 or so people have had this email for 18 months and it's only just now being leaked.
The timings are working out quite well though - as it meant that the 'Christmas Party' could return a "I wasn't there, this was terrible, We shall investigate" response.
The 'Party on the Terrace' photo then led to a "no, no, this was just our way of working in a socially distanced manner" response

Then this. Busted

and the timing is great so that the outrage from each of the earlier incidents has allowed to subside, before coming back even stronger.
You know what would have been even better timing?

If the Met Police, who must have known what was going on, had actually done their jobs and arrested the lot of them last May.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:56 pm
by Bird on a Fire
lpm wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:40 pm
ojno wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:26 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:36 am
Amazing that 100 or so people have had this email for 18 months and it's only just now being leaked.
Gfamily wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:14 pm
and the timing is great so that the outrage from each of the earlier incidents has allowed to subside, before coming back even stronger.
It seems clear to me that no one who was there or involved in any way actually gave a sh.t. The evidence was merely filed away for later. Just in case.

The most likely explanation for this "drip, drip" that I can see is that the "grey men in grey suits" have decided that Johnson has outlived his usefulness, and are (tacitly) encouraging these leaks to happen in order that he is forced out.
Yep. What ojno says.

They've decided their interests would be better served by installing Sunak and have direct billionaire control, rather than carrying on with their "Boris" puppet.

Hence selective leaks against Truss, Gove and anyone else, while taking minimal counter hits from their leaks about Sunak.
I've always wanted to live in a massively corrupt oligarchy.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:00 pm
by Gfamily
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:55 pm
Gfamily wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:14 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:36 am
Ruth Davidson just stuck the boot in on BBC news.

Amazing that 100 or so people have had this email for 18 months and it's only just now being leaked.
The timings are working out quite well though - as it meant that the 'Christmas Party' could return a "I wasn't there, this was terrible, We shall investigate" response.
The 'Party on the Terrace' photo then led to a "no, no, this was just our way of working in a socially distanced manner" response

Then this. Busted

and the timing is great so that the outrage from each of the earlier incidents has allowed to subside, before coming back even stronger.
You know what would have been even better timing?

If the Met Police, who must have known what was going on, had actually done their jobs and arrested the lot of them in May of the year before last.
FIFY

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:00 pm
by FlammableFlower
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:55 pm
Gfamily wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 12:14 pm
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:36 am
Ruth Davidson just stuck the boot in on BBC news.

Amazing that 100 or so people have had this email for 18 months and it's only just now being leaked.
The timings are working out quite well though - as it meant that the 'Christmas Party' could return a "I wasn't there, this was terrible, We shall investigate" response.
The 'Party on the Terrace' photo then led to a "no, no, this was just our way of working in a socially distanced manner" response

Then this. Busted

and the timing is great so that the outrage from each of the earlier incidents has allowed to subside, before coming back even stronger.
You know what would have been even better timing?

If the Met Police, who must have known what was going on, had actually done their jobs and arrested the lot of them last May.
It would be interesting to find out if they were proactively spineless or told to look the other way (and then were spineless enough to do so). It obviously is just variations on shades of sh.t, but just wondered whether anyone actually had the foresight to see this was against the rules and tried to point it out, even if ignored/slapped down.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:28 pm
by Bird on a Fire
I'm sure they'll investigate themselves and find that they did everything right.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:51 pm
by IvanV
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:56 pm
I've always wanted to live in a massively corrupt oligarchy.
I'm sure there are plenty of opportunities for extended field trips to such places. Unfortunately someone recently did a study of the white-bearded helmetcrest. That would have been so fitting. But maybe you could still get funding for a field-trip to study the Rusty-flanked crake or White-faced whitestart.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:40 pm
by TimW
It's a bit much calling Boris a helmetcrest.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:13 pm
by monkey
Tory MPs seem to be being a lot more outspoken about things like no confidence votes.

clicky
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 4:28 pm
I'm sure they'll investigate themselves and find that they did everything right.
They have to do it themselves as the Met won't do it because it happened in the past.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 6:32 pm
by Little waster
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 3:56 pm
I've always wanted to live in a massively corrupt oligarchy.
It’s Global Britain innit.

We turn our back on an ailing pluralistic European Social Democracy and embrace the rising powers of the 21st century which are all ... *checks notes* authoritarian, fascistic kleptocracies.

It’s why our grandparents fought the Nazis or something. #weknewwhatwewerevotingfor

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:30 pm
by Gfamily
Allegations that No 10 staff were advised to destroy evidence. (Apologies for a link to the god-awful Indy)

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:35 pm
by Little waster
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/202 ... wn-parties
The campaign group [The Good Law Project" said that in letters between it and the Met, police said they had “relied on the government’s assurances that no rules had been broken” and “there would have been no point in interviewing Number 10 staff about the parties because they would have refused to answer questions that exposed them to a risk of prosecution”.
In other news, the Met said they were not going to investigate "Wee Mad" Jimmy "Chops-you-up-with-a-hatchet" McVitie over a spate of recent axe-murders on the basis that the diminutive blood-soaked gangster had given "full assurances that he hadn't never chopped nobody up with his favourite chopper and anyone who says so is lying and likely to repeatedly walk into a meat cleaver if they aren't careful know what I mean" and saw "no point in interviewing the rest of the notorious Axe-murderer Gang because they would have refused to answer questions that exposed them to a risk of prosecution”.

In other other news, bookies cut the odds on Dame Cressida Dick DBE QPM being awarded an Order of the Garter in the next Queen's Birthday honours list to 7/6 on, provided she can ever find her way out of the stationary cupboard she is currently trapped in. Dick of the Yard apparently wandered into the cupboard 3 weeks ago to fetch a stapler and has proven incapable of locating the door handle ever since. This is considered doubly surprising as the door is reportedly actually open yet she insists to continue to look in the same three boxes of paperclips in rotation, while screaming a foul-mouthed rant about the inadequacies of modern building design.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 5:40 am
by Woodchopper
Gfamily wrote:
Tue Jan 11, 2022 9:30 pm
Allegations that No 10 staff were advised to destroy evidence. (Apologies for a link to the god-awful Indy)
They can’t even organize a coverup.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:13 pm
by TopBadger
Oh - look - he wants to apologize and take responsibility for breaking his own rules and the ministerial code... but without actually suffering any sanction like, say, resigning - as required by the very code he claims to endorse... bless.

That Etonian privilege is mighty isn't it?

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:15 pm
by Grumble
I didn’t realise I was at a party.

FFS.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 12:20 pm
by Bird on a Fire
Surely this is when he gets no confidenced? Unless parliament is stuffed with all-bark-no-bite wastemen.