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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:48 am
by Grumble
Tessa K wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:25 am
Apparently he was working and just popped in. Of course, as PM he should have told them they were all breaking the law and must leave immediately.
Doesn’t really tally with reports that he instigated it, does it?

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:49 am
by Little waster
Tessa K wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:25 am
Apparently he was working
Well we know that's lie for a start.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:19 am
by jimbob
Meanwhile Grant Schapps has stated that Johnson wasn't partying because he was mourning the death of his mother, which was nearly a year after the party.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 10:45 am
by Grumble
jimbob wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 10:19 am
Meanwhile Grant Schapps has stated that Johnson wasn't partying because he was mourning the death of his mother, which was nearly a year after the party.
Need to start early with these things.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 12:10 pm
by Tessa K
Update.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m2=twitter

It gets worse. Anyone who objected was 'mocked'.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 1:13 pm
by Opti
Tessa K wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 12:10 pm
Update.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m2=twitter

It gets worse. Anyone who objected was 'mocked'.
Looks like he's finally pissed off even those who have been covering for him up till now. Surely he can't hang on.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:10 pm
by Stranger Mouse
Opti wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 1:13 pm
Tessa K wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 12:10 pm
Update.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m2=twitter

It gets worse. Anyone who objected was 'mocked'.
Looks like he's finally pissed off even those who have been covering for him up till now. Surely he can't hang on.
Don’t bother watching the full Panorama. Everything of interest was in the twitter clip. The programme as a whole was damage limitation for Boris Johnson and the Conservatives and an opportunity to try and both sides it with the Starmer Durham thing. Jesus I know Laura K gets some unfair and probably sexist criticism but any criticism she gets from this is richly deserved. Utter crap. Utter sh.t. Infuriating. It may be responsible for the total degradation of journalism world wide for the next century. Total bollocks. Jesus that is an hour of my life I won’t get back.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:20 pm
by jimbob
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 7:10 pm
Opti wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 1:13 pm
Tessa K wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 12:10 pm
Update.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics- ... m2=twitter

It gets worse. Anyone who objected was 'mocked'.
Looks like he's finally pissed off even those who have been covering for him up till now. Surely he can't hang on.
Don’t bother watching the full Panorama. Everything of interest was in the twitter clip. The programme as a whole was damage limitation for Boris Johnson and the Conservatives and an opportunity to try and both sides it with the Starmer Durham thing. Jesus I know Laura K gets some unfair and probably sexist criticism but any criticism she gets from this is richly deserved. Utter crap. Utter sh.t. Infuriating. It may be responsible for the total degradation of journalism world wide for the next century. Total bollocks. Jesus that is an hour of my life I won’t get back.
The false equivalence between having a bottle of Cobra in the middle of a long working night and weekly parties with large numbers of people emptying bottles of spirits was something

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 7:35 pm
by Stranger Mouse
jimbob wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 7:20 pm
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 7:10 pm
Opti wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 1:13 pm


Looks like he's finally pissed off even those who have been covering for him up till now. Surely he can't hang on.
Don’t bother watching the full Panorama. Everything of interest was in the twitter clip. The programme as a whole was damage limitation for Boris Johnson and the Conservatives and an opportunity to try and both sides it with the Starmer Durham thing. Jesus I know Laura K gets some unfair and probably sexist criticism but any criticism she gets from this is richly deserved. Utter crap. Utter sh.t. Infuriating. It may be responsible for the total degradation of journalism world wide for the next century. Total bollocks. Jesus that is an hour of my life I won’t get back.
The false equivalence between having a bottle of Cobra in the middle of a long working night and weekly parties with large numbers of people emptying bottles of spirits was something
And as if to emphasise the difference new details/photos have emerged of a previously unreported party

https://twitter.com/pippacrerar/status/ ... DTpoax5JZQ
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Tue May 24, 2022 9:16 pm
by Bird on a Fire
Just been reading the latest batch of revelations on the beeb. It sounds exactly as I expected, which is depressing.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:37 am
by Stranger Mouse
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:16 pm
Just been reading the latest batch of revelations on the beeb. It sounds exactly as I expected, which is depressing.
Enjoy the Sue Gray report - here it is - there are new photos https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/statu ... gC9frkQWVA

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:44 am
by Tessa K
A failure of leadership and judgement.

Is that just Partygate or the last few years in general?

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 10:51 am
by Stranger Mouse
Opinium are releasing some new new polling on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/opiniumresearch/sta ... gC9frkQWVA

In the report I note that it’s clearly stated that the late announcement of the Met criminal investigation meant that some events were not investigated properly by Sue Gray.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:01 am
by Stranger Mouse
Jesus
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:05 am
by lpm
Worst bits:

- sick / "altercation" between two individuals

- "got away with it"

- karaoke machine

- "don't wave bottles of wine"

And above all:

- nobody has investigated ABBA party

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 11:21 am
by Stranger Mouse
lpm wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 11:05 am
Worst bits:

- sick / "altercation" between two individuals

- "got away with it"

- karaoke machine

- "don't wave bottles of wine"

And above all:

- nobody has investigated ABBA party
Well they were all working or something
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Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:16 pm
by Little waster
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 11:21 am
lpm wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 11:05 am
Worst bits:

- sick / "altercation" between two individuals

- "got away with it"

- karaoke machine

- "don't wave bottles of wine"

And above all:

- nobody has investigated ABBA party
Well they were all working or something 3282ABC5-045B-4A5D-9978-08B692C69FB1.jpeg
Well TBF if I had to work in close proximity with Johnson and his ilk I'd probably start to feel nauseous and want to start punching people too.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:21 pm
by Little waster
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:51 am
Opinium are releasing some new new polling on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/opiniumresearch/sta ... gC9frkQWVA

In the report I note that it’s clearly stated that the late announcement of the Met criminal investigation meant that some events were not investigated properly by Sue Gray.
There's a certain level of baked-in insanity that we have got to the point where people are being seriously asked to look at pictures of parties and then decide whether the party is a party and which of the partying party-goers are partying at the party.

It's like the world's shittest Captcha*, f.ck knows what they are training the Google AI to do with this info?

*If I had the time and inclination I'd mock one up.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:22 pm
by Bird on a Fire
Stranger Mouse wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:37 am
Bird on a Fire wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:16 pm
Just been reading the latest batch of revelations on the beeb. It sounds exactly as I expected, which is depressing.
Enjoy the Sue Gray report - here it is - there are new photos https://twitter.com/mattuthompson/statu ... gC9frkQWVA
Actually, Johnson's birthday party looks miserable as f.ck. Like a kid's party but no kids turned up.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 12:48 pm
by El Pollo Diablo
And yet, despite that, it's a f.cking trillion times more exciting and crowded than most children's parties that year.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 1:23 pm
by Bird on a Fire
That's the important point, true.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 1:47 pm
by Ben B
I don't get why the opposition aren't picking up on the fact that it doesn't matter if it was obviously a party or not.
The test in law was whether the gathering was "reasonably necessary for work"
It's not hard to work out that getting lashed at someone's leaving do fails that test.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 1:51 pm
by Lew Dolby
I can't get past the "they were working under immense pressure" clams. It was 10 Downing st, not an ICU full of Covid patients !! Tossers.

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 2:11 pm
by Ben B
Lew Dolby wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 1:51 pm
I can't get past the "they were working under immense pressure" clams. It was 10 Downing st, not an ICU full of Covid patients !! Tossers.
Not that much pressure; they were getting pissed at 4:00pm every Friday

Re: 2020 No. 10 Christmas Party!

Posted: Wed May 25, 2022 2:32 pm
by Bird on a Fire
Still amazed that fewer than 54 conservative MPs have a problem with this, with the minorly tin-hat caveat that conservative party internal processes aren't transparent and seem to have little regard for due process/reality. Can we actually trust reports of how many letters have been sent?