Re: tw.tter
Posted: Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:53 pm
https://techcrunch.com/2022/11/28/post- ... tive-a16z/ I did read some criticism of the owner or financial backer, but I can't remember where I read it.
According to that, it's funded by one of Musk's backers in the Twitter purchase. Either they are spreading their eggs between baskets, or doing something nefarious.Pishwish wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 6:53 pmhttps://techcrunch.com/2022/11/28/post- ... tive-a16z/ I did read some criticism of the owner or financial backer, but I can't remember where I read it.
It's a bad move to give it such an ungoogleable name. A bit like when Royal Insurance started an online insurance interface but called it "usecolor" - any search for the brand gave results for the markup language control instead.Brightonian wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 5:11 pmThanks, I'd Googled 'post social media' but of course got stuff about posting to social media. I did look at the Android app store too but couldn't find anything, presumably because it's still in beta.
Yeah, the "nefarious" suggestion was definitely unlikely. OTOH, the Musk text messages release shows how Silicon Valley often operates, so I don't think it's necessarily conspiratorial.bolo wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 9:56 pmAndreessen Horowitz is a ginormous Silicon Valley venture capital firm. Over the years they've backed a long list of tech companies. It seems a bit conspiratorial to imagine that backing Post is nefarious. Hedging the money they put into Twitter, maybe. Or maybe just hey, look here's another thing that might make us lotsamoney.
Yes, replacements for Twitter may be worse in some respects.
Doing it now is better than attempting to retrofit.
Wow.sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:34 pmIf even a fraction of the things described in this thread turn out to be true, Musk has bought a cut'n'shut.
sTeamTraen wrote: ↑Tue Dec 13, 2022 5:34 pmIf even a fraction of the things described in this thread turn out to be true, Musk has bought a cut'n'shut.
Maybe not. The Musk Tweet states:dyqik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:49 pmAlso Musk has added a bunch of new terms and acceptable use policies today.
One makes it a ToS violation to give any location information about anyone else. So it would be a ToS violation to say that the president would be speaking from the White House lawn, or they a band was playing a venue.
This was done specifically to justify Elon banning both the account that tracked his jet using publicly available information, and the account if the user that set up that not. Twitter is also deleting links to other sites with that information on, including Facebook pages, Instagram accounts, etc. Musk has previously declared that he was so committed to free speech that he wouldn't ban that account.
Also, Musk has announced that users will be required to have personalized ads and to share their location data with Twitter in order to continue using the service. This requirement is a direct violation of the FTC consent agreement and California privacy law. And probably GPDR.
He's referring to doxxing, which presumably means private information. So that wouldn't include a presidential press conference or live tweeting a sports event.Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info.
Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn’t a safety problem, so is ok.
Where jets go isn't private, though, and there are various websites that track them.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:56 amHe's referring to doxxing, which presumably means private information. So that wouldn't include a presidential press conference or live tweeting a sports event.Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info.
Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn’t a safety problem, so is ok.
Though lots of cases will be a grey area which will make enforcement difficult. Not that he would care about that.
Yes, Twitter’s rules appear to treat information available elsewhere as a grey area:EACLucifer wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 6:06 amWhere jets go isn't private, though, and there are various websites that track them.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:56 amHe's referring to doxxing, which presumably means private information. So that wouldn't include a presidential press conference or live tweeting a sports event.Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info.
Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn’t a safety problem, so is ok.
Though lots of cases will be a grey area which will make enforcement difficult. Not that he would care about that.
Indeed OSINT spaces are absolutely clogged with entry-level, context free speculating about routine movements of jets.
https://help.twitter.com/en/rules-and-p ... nformationIs the information available elsewhere online?
If the reported information was shared somewhere else before it was shared on Twitter, e.g., someone sharing their personal phone number on their own publicly accessible website, we may not treat this information as private, as the owner has made it publicly available. Note: we may take action against home addresses being shared, even if they are publicly available, due to the potential for physical harm.
The terms as written do not make this distinction. The ban included accounts that were not themselves sharing this public information.Woodchopper wrote: ↑Thu Dec 15, 2022 4:56 amMaybe not. The Musk Tweet states:dyqik wrote: ↑Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:49 pmAlso Musk has added a bunch of new terms and acceptable use policies today.
One makes it a ToS violation to give any location information about anyone else. So it would be a ToS violation to say that the president would be speaking from the White House lawn, or they a band was playing a venue.
This was done specifically to justify Elon banning both the account that tracked his jet using publicly available information, and the account if the user that set up that not. Twitter is also deleting links to other sites with that information on, including Facebook pages, Instagram accounts, etc. Musk has previously declared that he was so committed to free speech that he wouldn't ban that account.
Also, Musk has announced that users will be required to have personalized ads and to share their location data with Twitter in order to continue using the service. This requirement is a direct violation of the FTC consent agreement and California privacy law. And probably GPDR.
He's referring to doxxing, which presumably means private information. So that wouldn't include a presidential press conference or live tweeting a sports event.Any account doxxing real-time location info of anyone will be suspended, as it is a physical safety violation. This includes posting links to sites with real-time location info.
Posting locations someone traveled to on a slightly delayed basis isn’t a safety problem, so is ok.
Though lots of cases will be a grey area which will make enforcement difficult. Not that he would care about that.