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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by lpm » Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:31 am

On twitter someone said he's attempting a coup d'tw.t.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by jimbob » Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:40 am

Meanwhile from across the pond
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Just touching base - we feel the time is right for a press conference.

We have some experience with this sort of thing
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by lpm » Thu Jul 07, 2022 6:45 am

Oryx have been forced to stop calculating Russian losses. All their processing capabilities have been diverted to tracking resignations.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by lpm » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:04 am

We've reached the point where Johnson can't stay as lame duck PM during the leadership process.

Both May and Cameron could continue to govern after resigning as leader. Johnson can't. There needs to be an interim PM which is an interesting development.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by tenchboy » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:09 am

Thursdy morning:Guy Opperman, Pensions Minister 5th Minister to go. (BBC Live)

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Northern Ireland Secretary Brandon Lewis became the latest cabinet member to quit early on Thursday, quickly followed by four other ministers.

Previously-loyal supporters - including Priti Patel and Grant Shapps - urged him to step down on Wednesday.

But Mr Johnson insists he has a "colossal mandate to keep going" from voters.

Meanwhile, Attorney General Suella Braverman has said she will stand in any leadership challenge, although she did not resign.

Treasury minister Helen Whately, security minister Damian Hinds, science minister George Freeman and pensions minister Guy Opperman also resigned in swift succession.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by TopBadger » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:18 am

There seems to be a resignation every 15 mins... so it will be a government of 1 by tea time...

I agree that he can't be trusted to stay on in the interim.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by FlammableFlower » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:22 am

The coup d'tw.t line is brilliant.

Along the lines of TopBadger's Post- how many are actually left in government now? And how many positions are left from which somone hasn't resigned?

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by WFJ » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:35 am

FlammableFlower wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:22 am
The coup d'tw.t line is brilliant.

Along the lines of TopBadger's Post- how many are actually left in government now? And how many positions are left from which somone hasn't resigned?
Most of the cabinet and senior positions are still filled, but there's lots of empty junior positions.

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by TimW » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:43 am

lpm wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:04 am
There needs to be an interim PM which is an interesting development.
B'Stard is deputy, so does that make it him?

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Little waster » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:43 am

FlammableFlower wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:22 am
The coup d'tw.t line is brilliant.

Along the lines of TopBadger's Post- how many are actually left in government now? And how many positions are left from which somone hasn't resigned?
The IFG lists:-
The current payroll vote is between 160 and 170 MPs, consisting of:

95 ministers (including whips) in the House of Commons
47 parliamentary private secretaries (assuming all those who also serve on the Privileges Committee have resigned their PPS role to be able to investigate the prime minister)
20 Conservative MP trade envoys
an unknown number of party vice-chairs.
So around a third have gone.

THe remaining “talent” pool is around 200 backbenchers but a number of those will be staunch Boris critics or otherwise unsuitable/unlikely to be appointed. Following the Great Remoaner Purge of 2019 the current Cabinet were already the dregs of the Tory Party, at the point they start putting Fabricunt in place as Minister of Syrups and Chope in place as Women’s Minister you’ll know they are through the wood and into the foul-smelling mud underneath.

OTOH Johnson can also appoint Lords to the Cabinet and the payroll was already fairly bloated by historic standards for various reasons so a lot of positions could simply remain unfilled without noticeably affecting the Government’s alleged delivery.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by lpm » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:53 am

I'm gonna get myself appointed as junior mod of Scrutable, then within a day demand all the boss mods quit. "It is with great sadness, EPD, that I must ask you to resign."
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by TimW » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:54 am

Michelle Donelan has resigned!?

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by lpm » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:56 am

TimW wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:43 am
lpm wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:04 am
There needs to be an interim PM which is an interesting development.
B'Stard is deputy, so does that make it him?
I don't believe "Deputy PM" is a title that has any constitutional meaning. There's no automatic appointment but it would be a reasonable choice for Her Majesty to make.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by lpm » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:56 am

TimW wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:54 am
Michelle Donelan has resigned!?
You're making this up now.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Little waster » Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:58 am

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by jimbob » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:01 am

TimW wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:54 am
Michelle Donelan has resigned!?
Yup.
lpm wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:56 am
TimW wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:54 am
Michelle Donelan has resigned!?
You're making this up now.
Nope

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Stephanie » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:01 am

lpm wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:56 am
TimW wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:54 am
Michelle Donelan has resigned!?
You're making this up now.
nah, just saw her letter haha. Nadhim Zahawi has also written a letter telling Johnson to resign
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by TopBadger » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:02 am

lpm wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:56 am
TimW wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 7:54 am
Michelle Donelan has resigned!?
You're making this up now.
Nope... only appointed on Tuesday.

Nahawi also calling for him to go... will he resign over this too having failed to influence the situation with words?
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Grumble » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:03 am

How many more between 9 and 10 this morning? Another 4 I reckon.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Grumble » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:11 am

Grumble wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:03 am
How many more between 9 and 10 this morning? Another 4 I reckon.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by lpm » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:13 am

NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I don't want the comedy to end.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by WFJ » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:15 am

There could still be more fun if lots of Tories believe he can't stay on in the interim.

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by FlammableFlower » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:16 am

lpm wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:13 am
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I don't want the comedy to end.
There's still the current thought he'll stay on as caretaker PM... plenty of room whilst the leadership contest goes on for hilarity.

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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Grumble » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:17 am

WFJ wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:15 am
There could still be more fun if lots of Tories believe he can't stay on in the interim.
Hard to see how they could accept jobs in government with him still there.
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Re: Boris: What next?

Post by Little waster » Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:24 am

lpm wrote:
Thu Jul 07, 2022 8:13 am
NOOOOOOOO!!!!!

I don't want the comedy to end.
And so he departs as he ruled, like a screaming red-faced toddler throwing a tantrum in a supermarket, deeply embarrassing for all involved.
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