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philbo wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:17 pm

tom p wrote: ↑

Fri Jul 08, 2022 7:39 am

well it's good to see you, mate.
hope you're keeping well

Yes, thanks. Started a new job in Jan, which seems to be going OK. Haven't been doing anything like enough gigging recently, while things are starting to recover post-covid, they're picking up far slower than the comedians wanting to fill those spots. And, frankly, I don't have quite the gig-chasing energy I once did. Getting old...

But I won't fill up space here with personal stuff..

Boris, eh? I've just been having an open and frank discussion with someone on FB who is insistent that what Starmer did was far worse than Boris, that Boris has been the subject of a "msm witch hunt", and that the "backstabbing bastards finally won"

I have to admit, I agreed with that last statement, and think it applies every bit as well to 2019 when this particular lot of backstabbing bastards got into office.

Did I share the "Boris, the dodgiest PM in the West" song on here?

you didn't, but i bet it's a cracker.

I'd heard on some podcast recently that things are really sh.t for comedians right now, with cost-of-living reducing the number of punters & thus payment to comedians & cost-of-fuel increasing the cost of getting to gigs

tom p wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:33 pm

you didn't, but i bet it's a cracker.

I'd heard on some podcast recently that things are really sh.t for comedians right now, with cost-of-living reducing the number of punters & thus payment to comedians & cost-of-fuel increasing the cost of getting to gigs

There you go, then: https://youtu.be/gfzCxxsVNck

They're not wrong: it's all a bit worrying for many friends. My daughter also - not a comedian, but she's touring the play she wrote last year (I might have mentioned that here all that time ago - first run in Edinburgh went really well until Covid cut them short, but garnered three 5* reviews - if anyone wants some entertainment, I'm biased but even so it is really good - https://letterforlettertheatre.com/its- ... t-science/ ), and getting bums on seats is proving troublesome.

philbo wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:56 pm

tom p wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:33 pm

you didn't, but i bet it's a cracker.

I'd heard on some podcast recently that things are really sh.t for comedians right now, with cost-of-living reducing the number of punters & thus payment to comedians & cost-of-fuel increasing the cost of getting to gigs

There you go, then: https://youtu.be/gfzCxxsVNck

They're not wrong: it's all a bit worrying for many friends. My daughter also - not a comedian, but she's touring the play she wrote last year (I might have mentioned that here all that time ago - first run in Edinburgh went really well until Covid cut them short, but garnered three 5* reviews - if anyone wants some entertainment, I'm biased but even so it is really good - https://letterforlettertheatre.com/its- ... t-science/ ), and getting bums on seats is proving troublesome.

That was ace, ta & your daughter's play looks very interesting - just a shame I'm the wrong side of the nawf sea to see it

lpm wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:54 pm

I'm getting increasingly annoyed at TV "journalists", plus the usual twitter morons, talking about 3 months or October.

Last time it took exactly 2 months. That would be 7 September. The obvious date to crown the new PM and start her honeymoon period is when House returns from recess, 5 September. There's simply no chance it'll be significantly later than that.

Told you so.

So who is the least worse contender in terms of screwing the UK, and the best worse in terms of screwing the Tories election chances?

philbo wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:56 pm

tom p wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 1:33 pm

you didn't, but i bet it's a cracker.

I'd heard on some podcast recently that things are really sh.t for comedians right now, with cost-of-living reducing the number of punters & thus payment to comedians & cost-of-fuel increasing the cost of getting to gigs

There you go, then: https://youtu.be/gfzCxxsVNck

They're not wrong: it's all a bit worrying for many friends. My daughter also - not a comedian, but she's touring the play she wrote last year (I might have mentioned that here all that time ago - first run in Edinburgh went really well until Covid cut them short, but garnered three 5* reviews - if anyone wants some entertainment, I'm biased but even so it is really good - https://letterforlettertheatre.com/its- ... t-science/ ), and getting bums on seats is proving troublesome.

That is a cracker

This Tucker Carlson video about Johnson is insane https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/15 ... qW7RxW01BQ

lpm wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 7:02 pm

lpm wrote: ↑

Thu Jul 07, 2022 12:54 pm

I'm getting increasingly annoyed at TV "journalists", plus the usual twitter morons, talking about 3 months or October.

Last time it took exactly 2 months. That would be 7 September. The obvious date to crown the new PM and start her honeymoon period is when House returns from recess, 5 September. There's simply no chance it'll be significantly later than that.

Told you so.

Well if you’re so clever, why aren’t we rich?

Better to be smug than rich.

Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:41 pm

This Tucker Carlson video about Johnson is insane https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/15 ... qW7RxW01BQ

f.ck me, that bloke is delusional. He must be suffering from pre-senile dementia

tom p wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:47 am

Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:41 pm

This Tucker Carlson video about Johnson is insane https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/15 ... qW7RxW01BQ

f.ck me, that bloke is delusional. He must be suffering from pre-senile dementia

I think I lost a few IQ points just watching that

It's funny how one can hear Americans talk about how wrong Carlson can be, but it doesn't really sink in until they're talking about something you know a little about, then you realize just how f.cking crazy it is. It says this Corbett-Dillon bloke is a "former Johnson adviser", I wonder to which sort of "johnson" they are referring...

philbo wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:32 am

tom p wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:47 am

Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:41 pm

This Tucker Carlson video about Johnson is insane https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/15 ... qW7RxW01BQ

f.ck me, that bloke is delusional. He must be suffering from pre-senile dementia

I think I lost a few IQ points just watching that

It's funny how one can hear Americans talk about how wrong Carlson can be, but it doesn't really sink in until they're talking about something you know a little about, then you realize just how f.cking crazy it is. It says this Corbett-Dillon bloke is a "former Johnson adviser", I wonder to which sort of "johnson" they are referring...

Well, he was talking a load of old cock

Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:41 pm

This Tucker Carlson video about Johnson is insane https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/15 ... qW7RxW01BQ

Bizarre

tom p wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 8:47 am

Stranger Mouse wrote: ↑

Mon Jul 11, 2022 8:41 pm

This Tucker Carlson video about Johnson is insane https://twitter.com/haggis_uk/status/15 ... qW7RxW01BQ

f.ck me, that bloke is delusional. He must be suffering from pre-senile dementia

Aye yes that famously "woke" action of promoting a sexual predator and the lying about it. I'm not also sure how they square Partygate with wokeness, if anything it seems to fit beautifully with their overt COVID-denial.

Out of morbid curiosity I googled this "former Johnson advisor".

His "advice" seemed to consist entirely of his company (not him) providing some digital marketing during the 2019 leadership and general election campaign, i.e. nothing to do with policy or strategy. The Walter Mitty is strong in this un.

Otherwise, apart from this Fox News car crash, there is a single random photo of him at some Washington DC press bash and possibly some weird sexual assault/fake lawyer/social media scam scandal scandal from 2014 (which could be just a coincidence of similar names*) and that's his entire presence on the world stage.


*Thomas Craig Corbett-Dillon founded the Social Media Agency Westminster Digital, under the name "Craig Dillon". In 2014 a Youtuber "Craig Thomas Dillon" was accused of six cases of rape and and media outlets reporting the case were threatened with legal action by Craig Dillon's lawyer a "Thomas Corbett" reportedly a fake identity with no record of any such lawyer existing. "Thomas Corbett" had previous form posing as You Tube Management to scam backstage passes and the like from various other social media types. That could all be a weird coincidence of similar names though and I don't know if anything ever came of those accusations, so I could be doing him a terrible dis-service but if not, its not a good look.

Immediately next it looks like he'll get to grin like a goon when his MP's express confidence in his government to defeat Labours NC motion.

Labour know he's not going to go early, and that Tory MP's aren't about to afflict another GE on themselves. So what's the point?

ETA: His twitter handle is “craigtdillon” so it looks like it is the same guy.

Now for the sake of libel laws, and on the basis of his ongoing freedom, let’s assume the accusations were completely baseless.

However even so, the fake lawyer shenanigans and attempts to blag freebies don’t paint a picture of a particularly honest individual especially when considered with the absurd claims about Johnson’s removal and overblown claims around his professional relationship with Johnson.

All-in-all he comes across as just another alt-right grifter doing the rounds of the various unhinged extremist echo chambers, spouting whatever counterfactual nonsense is convenient on any given day.

Little waster wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 11:13 am

*Thomas Craig Corbett-Dillon founded the Social Media Agency Westminster Digital, under the name "Craig Dillon". In 2014 a Youtuber "Craig Thomas Dillon" was accused of six cases of rape and and media outlets reporting the case were threatened with legal action by Craig Dillon's lawyer a "Thomas Corbett" reportedly a fake identity with no record of any such lawyer existing. "Thomas Corbett" had previous form posing as You Tube Management to scam backstage passes and the like from various other social media types. That could all be a weird coincidence of similar names though and I don't know if anything ever came of those accusations, so I could be doing him a terrible dis-service but if not, its not a good look.

Not a weird coincidence of similar names - the Daily Dot article on the 2014 allegations links to a denial from the twitter account of the youtuber. The tweet's been deleted but you can see it was posted by the blue tick account @craigtdillon (currently posting as Thomas Corbett-Dillon).

There's a 2015 interview in the Independent that refers to all charges being dropped though. (According to the google summary - I haven't read it cos it's the Independent.)

ETA: that'll teach me to preview before I post. Ninja'd.

TopBadger wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 1:30 pm

Immediately next it looks like he'll get to grin like a goon when his MP's express confidence in his government to defeat Labours NC motion.

Labour know he's not going to go early, and that Tory MP's aren't about to afflict another GE on themselves. So what's the point?

It's the right thing to do. It also happens to be good politics.

Everyone (maybe not Dorries) knows that Johnson is unfit for office. Many of his MPs bashed him in various speeches and letters. Even last week he finally admitted to meeting Lebedev unescorted whilst Foreign Secretary. Cummings claims he did the same as PM.

So he's a security risk who has mislead Parliament and there is an obvious stand-in, in the form of the Deputy PM.

Labour should do what is in their power to try to unseat Johnson, to highlight how unacceptable it is.

Just as it was right to impeach Trump even though the arithmetic was never going to convict him.

Of course the Tory candidates are going to be saying that they think Johnson must go, but even though they said he's unfit and with more details coming out, they are still happy to have him stay on to September, rather than the obvious (Tory) interim successor.

I am not a fan of futile confidence votes, but this is not futile - it ties the post Johnson Tories to Johnson.

Yeah, it's basically Westminster game-playing rather than a isso practical move, but it doesn't seem they can do much more in opposition and at least they're playing the game pretty well.

All the good folks who said Johnson must go will now vote for him to stay.

Bird on a Fire wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:05 pm

Yeah, it's basically Westminster game-playing rather than a isso practical move, but it doesn't seem they can do much more in opposition and at least they're playing the game pretty well.

All the good folks who said Johnson must go will now vote for him to stay.

It's only game playing if the Tories play games. If they had the integrity of what they said a few days ago, they would have put in a deputy.

jimbob wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 2:00 pm

I am not a fan of futile confidence votes, but this is not futile - it ties the post Johnson Tories to Johnson.

Yes, the resulting cringe-inducing car crash interviews that result, with various senior Tories, including the next PM, wriggling on the hook to hand-wave away the contradictions inherent in giving a Johnson a Vote of Confidence a fortnight before defenestrating him on the basis he was patently unfit for office, then moving heaven and Earth to get out ASAP before trooping through the voting lobby to express their full confidence in the man, will launch a million re-tweets and follow the f.ckers around for years.

I'm pretty sure that the PM can't refuse to hold a no confidence in the PM's government vote without causing a constitutional crisis.

dyqik wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:20 pm

I'm pretty sure that the PM can't refuse to hold a no confidence in the PM's government vote without causing a constitutional crisis.

We'll find out.

dyqik wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:20 pm

I'm pretty sure that the PM can't refuse to hold a no confidence in the PM's government vote without causing a constitutional crisis.

5p says he can.

jdc wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 9:03 pm

dyqik wrote: ↑

Tue Jul 12, 2022 4:20 pm

I'm pretty sure that the PM can't refuse to hold a no confidence in the PM's government vote without causing a constitutional crisis.

5p says he can.

What I don’t understand is why he stopped it? They wouldn’t win it so surely he’s just handed them a PR victory?

ETA PR meaning public relations not proportional representation